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Re:When Websites Won’t Take No for an Answer by pbhjpbhj on Saturday May 14, 2016 @04:49PM (#11697966)
>Is this manipulation? The fee was still clearly stated on checkout //

That instance seems very clearly manipulation. When the cost is known people don't buy, only when they've sunk time on the process do they buy - probably because they have to assume other sites in the field are equally manipulative.

Unless the full cost is available without going through the sales funnel I'd say it's fraud.

Re:When Websites Won’t Take No for an Answer by gohrt on Saturday May 14, 2016 @07:35PM (#11698556)
It's not "fraud" if they haven't taken money from you. deception and false advertising, but not fraud.
Re:When Websites Won’t Take No for an Answer by pbhjpbhj on Sunday May 15, 2016 @06:37AM (#11700332)
If they robbed 30 minutes from me because they deceived me with their falsely advertised price I consider that pretty close to fraud if not within the legal definition per se.