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Re:Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear ... by CydeWeys on Monday May 09, 2016 @11:13PM (#11664929)
Hell, out in the real world, animals get eaten alive all the time. Getting a tattoo isn't even close to the worst thing that can happen.
Re:Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear ... by pyre on Monday May 09, 2016 @11:38PM (#11665009)
This is specious logic. You're saying that anything up to, but not including, getting eaten alive is ok because "it could always be worse."
Re:Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear ... by Chris2048 on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @05:42AM (#11666047)
It's only specious if your interpretation is correct.

> Getting a tattoo isn't even close to the worst thing that can happen

Isn't the same as "it's ok"; or "anything up to" (the distance is mentioned, implying it might be relevant to context).

Re:Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear ... by pyre on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @06:11PM (#11671101)
I'm not sure you would find anyone in agreement of a defence of the Iraq War that was along the lines of "It could be worse, just look at the Holocaust!" Pointing to something else and saying "it could be worse" isn't a defence of the actions in question. It's something along the lines of "passing the buck."
Re:Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear ... by Chris2048 on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @10:05PM (#11672162)
It sounds like you are reducing OP to a binary, with us or without us - on the attack or or the defense. This is the discourse of binary politics, and that's why there is no nuance to discussions of the Iraq war.
Re:Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear ... by PeCaN on Monday May 09, 2016 @11:57PM (#11665058)
I suspect your parent's point was that saying putting tattoos on pigs is "disgusting and shameful" is a little odd, given that animals eat each other all the time (which is presumably not disgusting nor shameful).
Re:Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear ... by pyre on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @12:16AM (#11665120)
The logic doesn't work because the two acts are not necessarily equal. Let's take another example: Would you equate the following items?

- Torturing an animal to death for fun.

- Killing an animal quickly and eating it.

They both end up with the animal being dead. Does that mean that they are equal and that you can't find one "disgusting and shameful" but not the other?

Re:Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear ... by vacri on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @02:14AM (#11665445)
I wouldn't equate those two, no. But it's also worth mentioning that it's common in the natural world for prey to spend hours dying (and more rarely, days or even weeks). The idea that a 'natural predator' death means a quick death is a myth. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.
Re:Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear ... by pyre on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @06:07PM (#11671069)
Using that as an excuse for (or in defence of) your own actions is akin to saying "he's doing it, so why can't I?" though.
Re:Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear ... by CydeWeys on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @07:50PM (#11671621)
The point is that you keep making leaps of logic in order to knock down strawmen, rather than addressing the actual substantive arguments at play.

My point is that a pig in captivity that is treated well and protected from predators, oh and that happens to get tattoo or two, is still doing better than a pig out in the wild, which is subject to much worse things happening to it. The pigs in captivity even get health care!