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Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by MichaelBurge on Sunday May 08, 2016 @09:28PM (#11656994)
Instead of a basic income, we could have Universal Jobs where anyone could make $X an hour in a government jobs center computing hashes by hand for a welfare cryptocurrency.

Roll the dice, use your government-approved paper to calculate the hash, and claim your prize if you're the first winner. Prizes and difficulty are designed to statistically provide a target $/hour.

Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by dragonwriter on Monday May 09, 2016 @12:15AM (#11657578)
Which is not a good substitute for Basic Income, add part of the motivation for Basic Income is to make it easier for people to reach their potential in an evolving market by allowing them to spend time retraining for jobs with emerging demand rather than stuck in dead-end jobs. Universal make-work jobs don't replace Basic Income, they are just an unproductive form of slavery by economic duress.
Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by warrenpj on Sunday May 08, 2016 @10:56PM (#11657328)
Joscha Bach recently said something similar. [1]

A society that provides a basic income may also need an ethic that encourages not-for-profit activity, creativity and community involvement. The "Universal Job" is just to be a healthy human being and make your community - no matter if it's the global civilization or just your own family - "richer" in a non monetary sense.

It seems to me that this would be a much more efficient kind of "employment" for the public good than paying people to do some useless bureaucratic work.

[1]: https://twitter.com/Plinz/status/727893059934031873

Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by jcoffland on Monday May 09, 2016 @03:14AM (#11658083)
So people do pointless work to "earn" their bread? This is not a society I would like to live in.
Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by spacemanmatt on Monday May 09, 2016 @08:19AM (#11659192)
The premise that everyone must work to "earn" the right to food and shelter is the essence of fascism. Humans have always been creatures of community.
Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by ThomPete on Monday May 09, 2016 @12:12AM (#11657567)
Universal jobs implies that the job in itself is why we work while the reality is that we work mostly for the benefits of that job.

If technology could be used to automate the whole chain of touch points and thus remove the need for human incentives to get things produced why insist on an old paradigm with what would mostly be the most shitty jobs you could find.

That seems like using technology for the opposite of what it's good for and for insisting on an very undesirable part of being alive.

Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by hellbanner on Sunday May 08, 2016 @09:49PM (#11657075)
Why do that when a computer could?
Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by MichaelBurge on Sunday May 08, 2016 @09:55PM (#11657095)
Because then rich capital-holders could buy up all the computing power and take control of all the welfare money. Chinese millionaires would end up taking money from needy Americans.

Using this system, we ensure that no single capital-holder controls too much mining power over the currency. Every working man is judged on his merits, using a system that is hard for any one actor to parallelize or scale. So many many distinct actors work to secure the underlying currency, and it is safer against large banks or governments.

Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by hellbanner on Saturday May 21, 2016 @08:47AM (#11744492)
Except that if I tell you I have "a million people" in my secret facility manually hashing and in reality there's a single GPU crunching, I'd still make more. How would you audit this?
Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by jcoffland on Monday May 09, 2016 @03:17AM (#11658100)
This is silly. One small mining computer would be faster than all the human hashers combined. There is no special hashing function a human can always do better than a computer.
Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by swiley on Sunday May 08, 2016 @09:55PM (#11657096)
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Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by quality10 on Monday May 09, 2016 @12:33AM (#11657641)
It doesn't make any sense unless you count human labour costs at $0/hour.

You take $10 of taxes and $10 of work ($20 total), and give $10 to the worker.

But maybe 50% waste is still better by order of magnitude than average government projects.

Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by Ericson2314 on Monday May 09, 2016 @03:25AM (#11658122)
This is excellent satire y'all.
Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by flak48 on Sunday May 08, 2016 @11:57PM (#11657519)
But will women and non-Asian minorities be given more tries or more error tolerance as a way of affirmative action/lowering the standards?
Re:Basic Income and Blockchain Courts by spacemanmatt on Monday May 09, 2016 @08:20AM (#11659203)
Please join me in a tiny tear shed for the oppressed white male.