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Re:Italian court rules food theft 'not a crime' if hungry by michaelmrose on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:05AM (#11626102)
Multiple issues here first and foremost the modern environment wherein people can fairly said to have earned what they get from society has never existed in history.

The closest thing would be say primitive hunter gatherer societies. Ever since we started having specialists that paid for their decreased production by providing greater fitness for society as a whole benefit from society has only been tangentially related to utility provided.

The creation of such a society wherein value is so related would be such a profound improvement over every society in existence wherein value seems to derive from leverage not value that it not ethical implications would surely be the primary topic of discussion.

In a bizarrely unfair real society arguing that you have the right to maximally leverage whatever value you your dad and your grandpa managed to drag away and coral seems greedy and disingenuous.

Devoting a minority of societies resources to ensure everyone has something so that they can find their own way to contribute seems to be the only sane solution to an otherwise broken system.

Secondly you mention drug companies and specifically their intellectual property in the same breath as speaking of protecting a man's ability to freely go about providing value to society but ip is a wholly artificial construct and designed to shape how value is distributed disproportionately not to empower creation of value but to empower others to extract rent from society something that seems antithetical to your own desires.

You are concerned with the government taxing and spending on handouts but not about enabling monopolies that have no basis in reality or the notion of property rights. If I have a right to my chemistry set surely if I make the right molecule my property doesn't become yours.

Basically Objectivism is a great way for those who have historically controlled the Lions share of a societies resources while providing minimal value to society in return to justify their greed.

Re:Italian court rules food theft 'not a crime' if hungry by objectivistbrit on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:51PM (#11629651)
"In a bizarrely unfair real society arguing that you have the right to maximally leverage whatever value you your dad and your grandpa managed to drag away and coral seems greedy and disingenuous."

You're arguing against aristocracy, not capitalism. In 19th century America (the most free society in history) there was a phrase "from shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations." In the absence of state-protected income, inherited wealth never lasts long.

Re:Italian court rules food theft 'not a crime' if hungry by michaelmrose on Thursday May 05, 2016 @09:26PM (#11641058)
The 19th century was a terribly limiting time for people that weren't well off, white, males. The part about inherited wealth not lasting is entirely fictional.