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Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by smaili on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @06:29PM (#11624773)
I'm fairly certain Brazil didn't just wake up one day and decide to reactivate WhatsApp's service...

So my first reaction to this news is what did Facebook/WhatsApp/Zuckerberg do, or possibly even give up, in order to change Brazil's mind.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by x0054 on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @06:38PM (#11624816)
Nothing, their judicial system functioned as it should, only a day too slow. A district judge in the middle of the country has no right to do stuff like that, and the appellate judge fixed the overstep. Now, step 2, disbar the original district judge.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by outworlder on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:01PM (#11624929)
Step 2 seldom happens. Judges have an extreme amount of power.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by matt_wulfeck on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:34PM (#11625073)
Actually judges generally have very little power. For example, they can't enforce any decision they make, they can only make decisions.

In a functioning democracy the branches are balanced. In this case it looks like it took too long.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by neves on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:04AM (#11626097)
In Brazil a lower judge just illegally wired trap the president talking to an ex-president and released it to the media. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/17/release-tapped-...
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by readams on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @06:40PM (#11624826)
There is only one specific judge that has ordered the block both times it has occurred. Both times it has been overturned when appealed to other judges in Brazil. It's not "Brazil" that made this decision. It's one extremist judge.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by schoen on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @06:44PM (#11624841)
The December 2015 block was ordered by a judge in São Paulo (edit: São Bernardo do Campo city, in São Paulo state), while the most recent block was ordered by a judge in Sergipe.

What you might be thinking of was the February arrest of a Facebook executive, which was ordered by the same judge in Sergipe as the current WhatsApp block.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by singlow on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:49PM (#11625157)
I think he or she just meant that in each case it was a single Judge's decision - that in neither case was the decision reviewed by a second court or committee before taking effect.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by luizlopes on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @06:44PM (#11624844)
I've heard of groups of people in the Southeast talk about how the mentality of the people in the Northeast is different, and that is how you get the extremist judge.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by outworlder on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:14PM (#11624980)
> I've heard of groups of people in the Southeast talk about how the mentality of the people in the Northeast is different

Being born in the capital and lived in the Northeast for 3 decades, I can attest that the mentality is indeed different.

For instance: the biggest A-holes usually come from the Southeast. See what I did there? I have many examples to back this up, but they prove nothing. Generalizations are harmful.

This is just a stupid judge overstepping his authority. If anything, that's judge mentality for you.

Instead of "hearing from groups of people", catch a plane and see for yourself. I bet some of your beliefs are going to change.

Caption for non Brazilians: there's this prejudice from people from the Southeast against people from the Northeast. Some of it is historical, as the Northeast suffered for centuries with severe drought (California's current situation is better than their best case, no mountains storing ice). So, people would migrate to the Southeast, in search of jobs. Usually poor, uneducated people.

Since then, the Northeast has developed and, while the drought is still a problem, most people are in cities now. Still, the stereotype persists, specially among the elitist in the South/Southeast.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by Dylan16807 on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:46AM (#11626254)
>Being born in the capital and lived in the Northeast for 3 decades, I can attest that the mentality is indeed different.

>For instance: the biggest A-holes usually come from the Southeast. See what I did there? I have many examples to back this up, but they prove nothing. Generalizations are harmful.

The person you're replying to didn't say that either mentality was better or worse, just that they were different enough to lead to 'extremes'. Don't mock that as an us-vs-them slapfight.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by br_smartass on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @10:49PM (#11625825)
Northeast is historically prejudiced against, it's where people used to die of hunger every day because of drought, poverty and hunger, like 10 years ago an image that's probably imprinted in every brasilian memory(from TV) is of the "sertão" with really dry land that's basically just red dirt, skeletal cattle, bones of dead cattle(because they also died of hunger), poor people with skin that looked like the eroded soil itself from living and toiling under the sun entire lifes. So because of this there was also a lot of migration, with the Southeast(São Paulo) being one of the central destinations because it's an economic center and etc so you can probably guess where the bad talk comes from..

The Northeast has improved a lot today, but it still has a lot of poverty and violence in big cities. Also it has a very rich culture.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by schoen on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @06:57PM (#11624904)
Recall that a similar order was issued by a judge in São Bernardo do Campo just five months ago (causing Brazilian ISPs to block access to WhatsApp servers).
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by cadddr on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @06:59PM (#11624917)
If you are Brazilian (as your username suggests), you should be ashamed for making this comment.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by scriptalipta on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @08:12PM (#11625265)
I am not Brazilian, but currently in Brazil. I also heard comments along those lines. Nothing to be ashamed of when making a statement like that. It's worse when you let nationalistic pride stop you from making negative comments.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by gldalmaso on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @08:44AM (#11627896)
When you make assumptions on someone else's mentality based on the geographic region they live in, it's called prejudice.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by eric_h on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:38PM (#11625101)
The parallels with the US in this regard are striking (though of course it's just North/South in the US).

I'm curious if it is the inverse in Brazil of what it is in the United States?

Also, given the downvote(s) and another's chastising reply to the comment to which I'm replying, what exactly is being implied?

[Edit: I just read https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11624980 , so I guess that my first point is confirmed, my second answered in the affirmative, and my third obviated]

[Edit 2: not agreeing with prejudice of any sort in either example, simply pointing out that similarities exist]

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by schoen on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:43PM (#11625122)
It's not the only factor, but Brazil's south and southeast are dramatically richer than the rest of the country:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brazilian_federative_u...