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Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by Analemma_ on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @04:49PM (#11624115)
It's very efficient and it's a great solution overall; the only problem is there are only so many dams we can build, since each one requires drowning a valley.
Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by femto on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @08:31PM (#11625337)
Though you need less volume if it is only being used for overnight storage rather than long term rainfall storage. For example, to store enough energy to produce 1GW for 1 day (~10^5 seconds) with a head of 100m, use Pt=mgh to work out you need to store:

m = 10^9.10^5 / (10*100) = 10^11 kg of water. = 10^8 m^3

This is not a big reserviour, being 1/20th of the size of Warragamba dam's reserviour (in Sydney). One valley could provide 20GW for a day. Compare that with demand for where I live:

http://www.aemo.com.au/Electricity/Data/Price-and-Demand/Pri...

Peak demand for 7.5M people is 9GW, with an average closer to 7GW. One valley could provide overnight storage for over 20 million people, with first world demands (all of Australia). The limitation is transmission and generating/pumping capacity, rather than storage volume.

Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by ldp01 on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @09:09PM (#11625484)
Note that's a winter peak you're looking at.

The highest summer peak appears to have been just above 13GW. http://www.wattclarity.com.au/2016/02/highest-electricity-de...

However your point still stands I believe.

Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by imaginenore on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @09:51PM (#11625615)
But the summer peak is due to air conditioning during the day, when there's tons of "free" solar energy.
Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by jhallenworld on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @05:27PM (#11624381)
Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by richdougherty on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:13PM (#11624975)
The more sun, the more water in the pool. Win-win!
Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @06:00AM (#11627281)
Seriously though has anyone crunched the numbers on rainwater storage for microgeneration in a domestic setting.

Could I efficiently use excess solar to pump water in to a house roof storage area and generate electric from that?

Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by cninja on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @08:33AM (#11627836)
They crunch the numbers here: http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2011/11/pump-up-the-stor...

The energy in one gallon of gasoline is equivalent to the potential energy stored in 13 tons of water one kilometer up

Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by jhallenworld on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @07:05AM (#11627496)
The Tesla Powerwall has 6.5 kwh = 23.4 M joules.

Gravity potential energy = mgh. Suppose pool is 10 meters up, then you need 239,000 kg of water = 63K gallons or 8400 cu ft. This is a huge pool: 29 ft. x 29 ft x 10 ft.

You could use the city water supply: borrow water through a turbine at night, and return it during the day :-)

Or have pool up very high, for example on a cliff overlooking the Mediterranean:

http://inhabitat.com/crazy-home-carved-into-a-coastal-cliff-...

Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by lostlogin on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @06:20AM (#11627343)
The outflow from an Auckland homes storm water is not insignificant - an average roof would have something around 5 cubic metres of water come off it several times per year.
Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by toomanybeersies on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @08:35AM (#11627853)
I remember a while ago on the show "Let's Get Inventing" (Saturday morning kids show with kids inventing stuff, think it was on TV2), they tried generating electricity from drainpipes, they couldn't get enough power to even power a servo squeezing the trigger on a spraybottle, they had to get a great big firehose from an firetruck to actually generate anything.
Re:The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months by disposeofnick9 on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @06:51AM (#11627439)
"Have you seen the swimming pool on the roof?"

;)