Re:VW Presentation in 2006 Showed How to Foil Emissions Tests
by ThePaco on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @07:26PM
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Or maybe they'll realize it's not too effective to tell companies how to make their products.
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Re:VW Presentation in 2006 Showed How to Foil Emissions Tests
by mikestew on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @09:15PM
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Right, because the air in Los Angeles is barely breathable, just as it was in the 70s. Wait, I got that wrong; the air in L. A. isn't too bad these days. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah, the effectiveness of regulations. On that topic, now I'm not saying there's direct cause-and-effect here, but...
Re:VW Presentation in 2006 Showed How to Foil Emissions Tests
by semi-extrinsic on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @01:16AM
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Cleaner air in LA is primarily due to two technological breakthroughs: positive crankcase ventilation, and catalytic converters. That's the proper way to do regulations: once a cleaner tech is invented, make it mandatory. The other way around, mandating a steady decrease de-coupled from technological advances, is more likely to lead to cheating.
Re:VW Presentation in 2006 Showed How to Foil Emissions Tests
by tremon on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @07:43AM
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But how do you direct the industry to invent cleaner tech without the pressure of emission regulation?
Re:VW Presentation in 2006 Showed How to Foil Emissions Tests
by semi-extrinsic on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @04:03PM
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A concrete solution which would have avoided "Dieselgate" is if the EPA had made urea NOx removal tech mandatory on all diesel vehicles. Saying "cars in the future must be X% cleaner" is needed, but it's not a complete solution.
Plus, more often than not, the technology to make cars cleaner is available, but expensive and so manufacturers don't use it.
Water-methanol injection, for instance, is well proven tech (since WW2), but not adopted at large scale because it requires changes to gas pump infrastructure etc. The only way to overcome a chicken-and-egg problem like that is governments making it mandatory.
Re:VW Presentation in 2006 Showed How to Foil Emissions Tests
by jjawssd on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @07:29PM
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Are you implying that we should abolish pollution restrictions on car manufacturers?
Re:VW Presentation in 2006 Showed How to Foil Emissions Tests
by Sharlin on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @12:43AM
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Free market is so well-known for handling negative externalities well...
Re:VW Presentation in 2006 Showed How to Foil Emissions Tests
by TazeTSchnitzel on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @04:41AM
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Not necessarily, no.