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Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by mrob on Friday April 22, 2016 @04:15AM (#11547714)
The solution is simple. Continue calling the boat Boaty McBoatface. Ignore all references to the government's preferred name. They can choose what's painted on the side, but the name depends only on what people call it. If enough people call it Boaty McBoatface its name really is Boaty McBoatface. If your job depends on calling it the government's preferred name then subtly alter the timing of your speech to make it clear that it's not the real name while maintaining plausible deniability. Only written communication from coerced people remains a problem, and hopefully that will be far outweighed by people using the real name.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by joshvm on Friday April 22, 2016 @04:56AM (#11547864)
This will probably happen anyway. Research ships are manned by researchers (usually of the non-bureaucratic variety) and in my experience are game for a laugh. Regardless of what it gets officially named, this ship will almost certainly be unofficially referred to as Boaty McBoatface by its crew.

(And as another commenter who is familiar with the project internals pointed out - they already do call it McBoatface)

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by noobie on Friday April 22, 2016 @10:28AM (#11549441)
>this ship will almost certainly be unofficially referred to as Boaty McBoatface by its crew.

Except for the captain.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by chollida1 on Friday April 22, 2016 @08:31AM (#11548613)
> The solution is simple. Continue calling the boat Boaty McBoatface. Ignore all references to the government's preferred name.

This is good advice. In Toronto we have a baseball stadium called the Rogers Center (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogers_Centre). It was originally called the SkyDome but it was bought by a company called Rogers and renamed.

Everyone still refers to it as the Skydome. Corporate branding be damned:)

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by gryphonshafer on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:21AM (#11548889)
This happens with airports a lot. Some really wonderful and generous old pilot or aviation engineer dies, so the field gets renamed in honor of the person. But aviators still refer to the field by it's traditional name. It's not a slight against the honored dead; rather, it's just out of habit and the fact that it's tremendously easier to remember "$CITY_NAME Airport" than it is "$GUY_WHO_DIED Field".
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by AdmiralAsshat on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:37AM (#11549017)
Speaking of airports, I know of several people who outright refuse to refer to Washington National Airport by its current name, "Ronald Regan Washington National Airport". They will go so far as to correct someone who says "Regan National" and insist, "Washington National."
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by HoopleHead on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:43AM (#11549067)
Well, given the guy's name was "Reagan", it does warrant some kind of correction.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by DonHopkins on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:04PM (#11550164)
You mean it's not named after Reagan's chief of staff?
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by scurvy on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:54AM (#11549171)
Would these people happen to be air traffic controllers?

Also, most people in DC just call it National. Probably because the other airport also has a one word name (Dulles).

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by imgabe on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:48AM (#11550043)
Some people in DC are still annoyed by the renaming, partly because of the air controller thing, and partly because Congress changed the name against the wishes of the people of DC and then forced DC to pay for changing the signs out of the city's budget.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by DonHopkins on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:06PM (#11550178)
Didn't they name a fruit [1] after the mayor-for-life of Washington DC?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marionberry

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by tosseraccount on Friday April 22, 2016 @10:52AM (#11549613)
Some people call it just "Reagan".

Which airport, "Reagan", "Dulles" or "BWI" ?

They don't say "Marshall" for BWI, though.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by treehau5 on Friday April 22, 2016 @02:12PM (#11551226)
When I was there I called it "The Expensive one", "The One No one Goes to", and "The cheaper one"
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by JBReefer on Friday April 22, 2016 @10:21AM (#11549387)
Part of it is that it was named after him while he was still alive, and part of it is that DC is very, very blue.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by DonHopkins on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:07PM (#11550194)
I think it's less because they were blue, and more because they were devastated by his policies.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by scurvy on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:54AM (#11549161)
Definitely. Ever wonder why New Orleans' airport has the symbol MSY, but is named Louis Armstrong airport? MSY stands for Moisant Stock Yards, in honor of early aviator John Moisant.

Im recent years, the city renamed the airport to Louis Armstrong airport, but no one in the city refers to it as that. Everyone still calls it Moisant. Not that we don't like Louis Armstrong, it's always been called Moisant and New Orleans really doesn't like change.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by Grishnakh on Friday April 22, 2016 @10:31AM (#11549466)
I always wondered why that airport was called MSY.

However, I can think of one counterexample: JFK airport in NYC. It used to be called Idlewild, named after some golf course I think, but was renamed to JFK (with the airport code JFK) back in the 60s. No one knows what "Idlewild" is any more.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by scurvy on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:29AM (#11549892)
I had heard this in the past but forgot it. Thanks for the story!
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by WorldMaker on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:03AM (#11549698)
Another fun example is the Louisville International Airport which was originally named Standiford Field, thus the airport code SDF and even locals still sometimes refer to it as Standiford, but in this case was renamed to the more obvious choice (Louisville International Airport) to confuse people less.

A further tangent, but the more obvious airport code LOU is still in active use across town at Bowman Field, the city's original air field (definitely not an airport) and these days the oldest remaining continually operating air field in the country.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by jghn on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:37PM (#11550413)
Random aside but when I was a kid in the early 80s I found a radio in my grandparents basement which could pick up the radio chatter at Bowman. I would listen to that thing every time we visited
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by Grishnakh on Friday April 22, 2016 @10:40AM (#11549518)
I have a counterexample for this one: in Phoenix, there's an outdoor arena/pavilion that used to be called "Desert Sky Pavilion", a nice non-corporate name referring to the local geography. Well it went through that whole corporate branding crap, and while I was there at least, it seemed like people were calling it "Cricket Pavilion" (which was the current name at the time). Here's what Wikipedia says about the naming:

"Ak-Chin Pavilion (formerly known as the Desert Sky Pavilion, Blockbuster Desert Sky Pavilion, Cricket Pavilion, Cricket Wireless Pavilion and Ashley Furniture HomeStore Pavilion) is an amphitheater located in Phoenix, Arizona, which seats 8,000 under a pavilion roof and an additional 12,000 on a hillside behind the main stands."

That much renaming is really ridiculous IMO.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by bobwaycott on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:43PM (#11550456)
The Ashley Furniture HomeStore Pavilion. I died.

Then I wondered why there are so many telco/media stadiums/pavilions/etc., and not more furniture stores in the mix.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by lettergram on Friday April 22, 2016 @10:28AM (#11549443)
Happened to the largest building in Chicago too, it's supposed to be called "Willis Tower", but I've only ever heard "Sears Tower".
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by tvararu on Saturday April 23, 2016 @11:19AM (#11555897)
London's skyline includes buildings affectionately referred to as the gherkin [1], the cheesegrater [2], and the walkie-talkie [3].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_St_Mary_Axe

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/122_Leadenhall_Street

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_Fenchurch_Street

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by bryanlarsen on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:30AM (#11549902)
The Senator's hockey stadium in Ottawa has been through a few names since it was built in 96: Palladium, Corel Centre, Scotiabank Place, Canadian Tire Centre.

In the past few months I have heard all 4 names used for the facility.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by golemotron on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:22AM (#11548905)
If I ran a news organization I'd use the old name on principle but I know what would happen. Companies would start to pay me to use the "proper name." It's the next step after product placement.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by theseatoms on Friday April 22, 2016 @08:57AM (#11548720)
Likewise in Chicago, the Sears Tower is now technically the Willis Tower.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by _asummers on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:14AM (#11548835)
It got bought again, though I don't know if the newest buyers plan on changing the name again.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by dbot on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:23AM (#11548910)
They could change it back to Sears Tower.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by pimlottc on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:42PM (#11550453)
Perhaps, but the name Willis is not from the current owners, but simply one of the primary tenants. The previous owners threw in naming rights as part of the rental agreement.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by mediocrejoker on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:10AM (#11549746)
See also: Science World in Vancouver being rebranded as TELUS World of Science.

Nobody calls it anything but Science World.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by 6stringmerc on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:49AM (#11549119)
Same with a large ampitheather music venue just next to Dallas, where the State Fair is held:

Coca Cola Starplex (original) > Smirnoff Music Center > Superpages.com Center > Gexa Energy Pavilion

Not one of the brandings has resulted in any noteworthy facility improvements, interestingly enough /s

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by hobbyjogger on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:16PM (#11550259)
Habit is a powerful thing.

It's been nearly a decade since Austin's "Town Lake" was renamed by the city council as "Lady Bird Lake" (in honor of Lady Bird Johnson). To this day, I'm not sure I've ever heard it referred to as anything other than Town Lake. I certainly can never remember to use the new name.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by jonesetc on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:55PM (#11550564)
Useful for spotting transplants though. (Not meant in a negative sense)
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by stordoff on Friday April 22, 2016 @01:15PM (#11550715)
This happens a lot. There's a nightclub in Cambridge called Ballare (since 2003), but it is almost exclusively refered to by students as Cindies. There's another club, and I can't even recall what its "real" name is as "The Place" and "Life" were used interchangeably for it.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by kunai on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:24AM (#11549859)
Even though it's been the Willis Tower for several years now everyone I know still calls it the Sears Tower.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by baddox on Friday April 22, 2016 @05:56AM (#11548081)
I don't see much fun in that. The funny thing about getting the ship named Boaty McBoatface is that it would be painted on the ship and would be named as such in official documentation. The ability to casually refer to the ship by that name does exist, obviously, but how often do people refer to specific government ships by name anyway?
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by vidarh on Friday April 22, 2016 @07:57AM (#11548458)
One has to wonder if someone will decide to apply an unauthorised paint job at some point..
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by DonHopkins on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:14PM (#11550240)
I hope somebody paints a big face on it.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by Natanael_L on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:24PM (#11550310)
A banner would be safer
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by oldmanjay on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:35PM (#11550394)
The problem with this "joke" is that it's a mildly amusing story at best. Having it painted on the boat is just prolonging something that never really made it to the amusement level of a joke with legs.

I hope the officials hold firm. Long after the easily entertained public has moved on, they can do their job without being reminded of how poor the sense of humor in the general populace actually is.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by lmm on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:58PM (#11550595)
> I hope the officials hold firm. Long after the easily entertained public has moved on, they can do their job without being reminded of how poor the sense of humor in the general populace actually is.

How is the a bland, inane government-issue name it will no doubt end up with going to be any better?

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by radiorental on Friday April 22, 2016 @06:55AM (#11548246)
On the contrary, think of the why/who behind nicknames.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by Frenchgeek on Friday April 22, 2016 @04:19AM (#11547729)
So "A McBoatface by any other name would sail as adequately"?
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by 8note on Friday April 22, 2016 @04:26AM (#11547753)
as boatily.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by tn13 on Friday April 22, 2016 @05:41AM (#11548035)
Not if bureaucrats are in charge of sailing it...
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by Coincoin on Friday April 22, 2016 @07:48AM (#11548418)
Even better, call the boat Sir Boaty McBoatface. Everyone takes a Sir seriously.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by mikecb on Friday April 22, 2016 @07:51AM (#11548427)
Dame
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by imgabe on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:33AM (#11549931)
Outside of the people who actually work on the ship, how many members of the public are ever going to have any reason to call this ship anything at all after the poll is over?

I mean, it's cute to give the public an opportunity to name something, but half the people who voted in the poll have probably forgotten the ship even exists by now.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by jshelly on Friday April 22, 2016 @08:44AM (#11548659)
The marketing opportunities alone are insane. I am amazed that they are turning down the name. This ship had the opportunity to be as well known as the Titanic (but for better reasons)
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by __david__ on Friday April 22, 2016 @01:01PM (#11550619)
Agreed. Especially if they do something funny with the paint, like a giant happy face on the front or something. Maybe some cartoon arms on the side. Suddenly it goes from a soon-to-be-forgotten research vessel into an iconic mascot.

I'd buy a Boaty McBoatface toy and I'm not even British.

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by gumby on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:18PM (#11550274)
Yes! It's "name" is probably some registration number anyway.

And regardless I doubt anyone will call it "Boaty McBoatface". It'll be abbreviated into something anyway. BMBM or Boaty or something.

And it will demonstrate that resistance is futile!

Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by vidarh on Friday April 22, 2016 @07:56AM (#11548452)
Also, consistently refer to the person overriding the competition result as Sour McSourpuss.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by moron4hire on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:26AM (#11548929)
Could totally make a browser extension to automatically convert the text on a page, like the "On the cloud => in my butt" one.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by talmand on Friday April 22, 2016 @10:36AM (#11549488)
That wouldn't make it the name, that would make it the nickname.
Re:Boaty McBoatface and the False Promise of Democracy by uptown on Friday April 22, 2016 @07:05AM (#11548274)
Your reply is about Boaty McBoatface, am I correct?