Kite: Thoughts on Security

Re:Kite: Thoughts on Security by dangoor on Thursday April 21, 2016 @03:58PM (#11544942)

I had the top comment on the original post and was critical of Kite's approach. I still think that Jetbrains has proven that you can be very effective locally without consuming your entire machine, because the needs of one project do not require making sense of all Python libraries. You only need to make sense of the fairly small subset of libraries that a given project actually uses.

That said, I think this response is terrific. The value proposition was outlined well. Feedback loops are important and cloud services naturally have much tighter loops. Security considerations are no different than they are for GitHub, so those will not be insurmountable for many.

So, neat looking product and very nice response to initial feedback!

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Re:Kite: Thoughts on Security by Zombieball on Thursday April 21, 2016 @04:32PM (#11545134)

Expanding upon this line of thought I am not sure their comment RE: storing data indexed in 32GB of RAM holds any meaning considering it requires a hop over the wire to access. Locally stored indexes on disk would likely be much faster.

I would imagine a smooth update mechanism could allow you to update file indexes without loosing too much agility on feature development but come with huge security gains.

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Re:Kite: Thoughts on Security by MichaelGG on Thursday April 21, 2016 @05:30PM (#11545482)

Well they say "machines" so it might be much more than 32GB. (Though on disk it might be strongly compressed.) And on HDDs, a few seeks is actually slower than a network round-trip.

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Re:Kite: Thoughts on Security by Zombieball on Thursday April 21, 2016 @06:24PM (#11545760)

Uncompressed might indeed eat up tons of disk space.

Admittedly I was thinking of an SSD + some caching in RAM when thinking of this timing. But I was always under the impression an HDD seek would be on the order of 10's of ms? I'd assume a query to a cloud service would be on the order of 100-200ms.

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Re:Kite: Thoughts on Security by MichaelGG on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:07PM (#11553956)

The network latency should be somewhere around 40ms assuming you're in the US on a proper connection. If a query takes 10 disk seeks (10ms each) vs 10 RAM accesses + HTTP parsing...

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