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Re:Curious Link Between the Fly-By Anomaly and the “Impossib... by StanislavPetrov on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @10:37PM (#11539267)
>only a very small community is working on this

>established physics says

Restricting research capacity and dismissing empirical evidence because it doesn't jive with "established science" is exactly the opposite of what science is all about.

Re:Curious Link Between the Fly-By Anomaly and the “Impossib... by zamalek on Thursday April 21, 2016 @02:24AM (#11540040)
Exactly, instead of spending time dismissing the EMDrive as impossible; time should be spent devising experiments that prove it ineffective.

Modern science seems to be rapidly encroaching on religious territory: observable evidence is less important than what historical figures have said.

Re:Curious Link Between the Fly-By Anomaly and the “Impossib... by pilsetnieks on Thursday April 21, 2016 @04:52AM (#11540515)
There have always been the recalcitrant "that's how it's always been done around here" types that often push back even when confronted with evidence. Take, for example, Ignaz Semmelweis[1] - he had the evidence that it works but he couldn't explain how washing hands could decrease mortality in hospitals. Few people took him seriously, he suffered a nervous breakdown and died. Afterwards it took Pasteur and Lister to get people to actually accept the theory.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis

Re:Curious Link Between the Fly-By Anomaly and the “Impossib... by zamalek on Thursday April 21, 2016 @05:27AM (#11540633)
I do understand that it is a recurring theme. This belief approach to science can be scientifically proven to be a bad idea (given evidence such as yours).

While every chance should be made to further explore our current assumptions (such as with the LHC), we shouldn't be neglecting low hanging fruit that challenges our ideas (such as the EMDrive). If as much as 1% of the money that is being spent on LHC went to "anomalous science" we'd likely have a conclusive answer on whether the EMDrive doesn't work. Science is tool that disproves, and we've been hacking it into a proofing tool for far too long. It's time to go back to basics and figure out more about what we don't know.

> McCulloch’s theory makes two testable predictions.

Think about the cost of either of those experiments - vanishing in the face of other science that is being performed today. If science wants to see the EMDrive go away, and is certain that it doesn't work, a comparatively small grant is all that it takes.

Re:Curious Link Between the Fly-By Anomaly and the “Impossib... by ajuc on Thursday April 21, 2016 @10:22AM (#11542325)
We need Antinobel prize for disproving stuff.
Re:Curious Link Between the Fly-By Anomaly and the “Impossib... by tankenmate on Thursday April 21, 2016 @06:13AM (#11540789)
A scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. -- Max Planck
Re:Curious Link Between the Fly-By Anomaly and the “Impossib... by astrodust on Thursday April 21, 2016 @03:53AM (#11540302)
Science has always had devout, religious elements, don't think otherwise. Look at the backpack the Theory of Evolution received from respected scientists and how much hand-waving dismissal there was of Relativity.

It has been argued that the only way science progresses is when the obstacles to science die of old age.

Re:Curious Link Between the Fly-By Anomaly and the “Impossib... by sanderjd on Thursday April 21, 2016 @01:05AM (#11539818)
This seems like a misconception to me. Scientists have always tried to apply their energies toward the most promising lines of research. The supply of research capacity is finite.
Re:Curious Link Between the Fly-By Anomaly and the “Impossib... by lunchTime42 on Thursday April 21, 2016 @04:02AM (#11540332)
Can you provide links to alternate timelines that proof your heuristics effective? ;)