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Re:Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 year... by JohnTHaller on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @05:34PM (#11537919)
If it wasn't going to eat into Xbox One sales, I'm sure Microsoft would consider it. The Xbox 360 makes a far better media center than the Xbox One does. The apps on the 360 crash less then on the One and dealing with crashed apps on the 360 is much more reliable.

For example, when your YouTube app crashes/hangs on the Xbox One, returning to the menu does nothing as the app pauses/runs in the background. You can hit the menu button (akin to a right-click) on the YouTube icon and select Quit. If you run YouTube again, it'll still be running and crashed. The trick is to menu button and quit YouTube and then run a couple other video apps (usually Netflix and Hulu do the trick). This is usually enough to fully offload the YouTube process and allow it to run again.

This is how Microsoft's flagship entertainment console works. In 2016. Seriously.

Everytime our cat sitter watches our place, I have the Xbox 360 hooked up for her to watch videos on. It's easier to use and more reliable.

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Re:Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 year... by daveidol on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @06:52PM (#11538319)
If you quit the app with the menu button then it is quit completely. Essentially, the "home" functionality works just like on iOS or Android. You're right that it is not always intuitive in situations when an app is hanging/frozen, but I'm not sure why you have to open other apps to get it to quit - I've never had that problem.

Disclosure: I used to work on the Xbox Live team at MSFT but no longer do.

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Re:Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 year... by JohnTHaller on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @08:03PM (#11538696)
That may be what's supposed to happen and what does in testing, but that's not real world behavior.

I had the YouTube app crash on my Xbox One just yesterday. I hit menu and selected quit. Waited a few seconds. Hit menu again and quit wasn't an available option which should mean that it's done being force quit. Started YouTube again and it will still hung playing audio with a frozen picture. Sometimes I'll start it again and it'll just show the YouTube logo for a few seconds then return to home. It'll often do this a few times in a row. I have maybe 6 people in my neighborhood with Xbox Ones that all experience the same issues.

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Re:Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 year... by arcticfox on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @09:17PM (#11538990)
I can also confirm this.
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Re:Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 year... by teamfrizz on Thursday April 21, 2016 @09:14AM (#11541823)
Xbox one dev here - can confirm what my sibling said about the quit button. It immediately suspends (quits) the process. I've poured many hours into the product lifetime cycle of my game.

On the other hand, if you don't hit quit, than hitting home and opening a bunch of other apps is exactly what you'd have to do to get the constrained (minimized) app to force quit while in the background.

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Re:Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 year... by JohnTHaller on Thursday April 21, 2016 @10:55AM (#11542603)
Quoting my below response so you see it as well: "That may be what's supposed to happen and what does in testing, but that's not real world behavior.

I had the YouTube app crash on my Xbox One just yesterday. I hit menu and selected quit. Waited a few seconds. Hit menu again and quit wasn't an available option which should mean that it's done being force quit. Started YouTube again and it will still hung playing audio with a frozen picture. Sometimes I'll start it again and it'll just show the YouTube logo for a few seconds then return to home. It'll often do this a few times in a row. I have maybe 6 people in my neighborhood with Xbox Ones that all experience the same issues."

And it was just confirmed by another HN user.

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