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Re:Got a Hot Seller on Amazon? Prepare for Amazon to Make On... by bsder on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @03:59PM (#11537295)
> I don't think there's anything we stand to lose from this happening to products so simple and generic. Or is there?

The thing you stand to lose is the original making of that product.

While making the laptop stand is "simple" (and I object to that statement as manufacturing anything is rarely "simple"), getting it in front of people, marketing it, and selling it is not. Amazon sits back and looks for any products that now sell over $X million dollars and then simply walks in.

So, now if I'm a manufacturer, I will do several things:

1) I might avoid Amazon. Ever. Decreasing choice on Amazon certainly hurts the consumer, no?

2) I might make a shitty product specifically for Amazon to sell so it doesn't cannibalize my good product. I hope you like wading through even more crappy products on Amazon. That hurts the consumer, no?

3) I might simply not make the product. If I think that Amazon might clone me, I either might not develop the product or I might artificially restrict the sales if I know that Amazon flags products above "n units sales or $m total revenue".

This is not new. WalMart was the offender last time. http://www.fastcompany.com/54763/man-who-said-no-wal-mart

Note that Snapper got bought by Briggs who then decided that Sears and WalMart were just fine. Quality seems to have suffered, as expected.

Re:Got a Hot Seller on Amazon? Prepare for Amazon to Make On... by cptskippy on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @07:18PM (#11538452)
> The thing you stand to lose is the original making of that product.

I would argue that Amazon Basics is filling the niche between quality premium and questionable cheap products with reliable products at a fair price.

If you want a Lightning cable for your iPhone what are your choices? A $1 part from an unknown Chinese factory that might work, or the $29.99 cable from Belkin, Griffin or Monster that will work? You know the cheap cable is a roll of the dice but you can't stomach the alternative either. That's where Amazon Basics comes in, it's the Toyota Carolla of whatever it is you're looking for.

It's not like Amazon is edging out anyone, they're offering products in categories that are over saturated with thousands of competing choices and no way for a customer to distinguish a good deal from a rip off.

Re:Got a Hot Seller on Amazon? Prepare for Amazon to Make On... by Klathmon on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @09:38PM (#11539061)
I feel like a good solution for consumers would be a "certified by Amazon" program.

Still allows small new businesses, provides the user with the "garentee" they want, gives the business advertising, and keeps you on Amazon.

I understand why they went straight to making then themselves, but I can dream!

Re:Got a Hot Seller on Amazon? Prepare for Amazon to Make On... by cptskippy on Thursday April 21, 2016 @09:13AM (#11541816)
Would that be handled like most certification processes where the business applies for certification and pays a fee? Or where Amazon randomly selects vendors and tests them, the later seems like it would be more costly than sourcing the products yourself.
Re:Got a Hot Seller on Amazon? Prepare for Amazon to Make On... by Klathmon on Thursday April 21, 2016 @09:22AM (#11541877)
IMO the second one would be almost impossibly difficult at Amazon's scale. It would have to be the first. And of course that means setting the price so that they can handle the amount of incoming requests, which means it will eliminate some smaller groups. But i feel like if i were a creator of something, i'd want to pay the money to get it "certified" rather than amazon copy it.
Re:Got a Hot Seller on Amazon? Prepare for Amazon to Make On... by iBzOtaku on Sunday April 24, 2016 @11:18AM (#11559925)
> it's the Toyota Carolla of whatever it is you're looking for.

Corolla, not Carolla.

Re:Got a Hot Seller on Amazon? Prepare for Amazon to Make On... by capote on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @10:21PM (#11539210)
> it's the Toyota Carolla of whatever it is you're looking for.

What a great comparison, exactly.

Re:Got a Hot Seller on Amazon? Prepare for Amazon to Make On... by capote on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @06:10PM (#11538124)
First off, "simple" is relative. A laptop stand is relatively simple, that's just what it is.

So, you're saying we stand to lose original making of products that are easy for Amazon to copy. That's exactly what I'm saying isn't that important.

You point 3 is what you should do if your product is not innovative or cannot compete with a generic AmazonBasics version. If it's truly better, or complex enough that it simply won't be copied by Amazon, then make it and you won't have issues.

Re:Got a Hot Seller on Amazon? Prepare for Amazon to Make On... by treebeard901 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @07:06PM (#11538383)
If Amazon is the only company willing to make a product, that gives them a monopoly by definition. When have consumers benefited when they only have one choice?
Re:Got a Hot Seller on Amazon? Prepare for Amazon to Make On... by tremon on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @07:09PM (#11538402)
In his case 3 there will be no AmazonBasics version either, since there won't be a product for Amazon to analyze and copy.