hahaha touché. I was kinda peeved someone asked me on what grounds I like something (what grounds are needed, we like what we like?) and I thought the best way to turn that around was to ask GFK about what they like (-:

For me, Jackson is in a weird place between "effective president" and "bad person". Monroe, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower all seem like more deserving presidents.

I'm a big political hack currently, I've been watching CNN's Race for the White House and taking a lot of more political history courses (HSTAA 212 U.S. Military History, etc).

I certainly don't agree with the direction a lot of these guy's moral compasses were pointing in, but boy did sure did get things done (most of the time).

I hold Teddy and Eisenhower in high esteem, but need to read up more about Monroe.

Monroe is a like a defanged version of Jackson. Equally impactful to the shape of the country (though less on the contours of our politics than Jackson), but with a healthy ambivalence towards slavery and less genocide.