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Re:For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant N... by stcredzero on Monday April 18, 2016 @11:17AM (#11520561)
I actually ended up asking her what was going on, specifically, "Am I bad at taking hints?" At that point, I should think a simple yes would have done fine. Making someone feel like a rapist for believing what is said or failing to correctly second guess is just weird and oppressive in itself.
Re:For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant N... by ownagefool on Monday April 18, 2016 @12:14PM (#11521028)
Think about it another way, if a girl asked you out and you didn't want to go out with her, what would you do? Sure, some of us, like some woman, don't really care and will just shut it down, but many of us would just make an excuse so we're not outright rude.

Either way, learn by being told, or learn by using empathy, if she doesn't counter offer it was a no. Once you've had your 3rd no, you're that creepy guy fyi.

Re:For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant N... by stcredzero on Monday April 18, 2016 @02:03PM (#11521893)
Think about it another way, if a girl asked you out and you didn't want to go out with her, what would you do?

I'd give a straight-forward answer to a fellow adult, assuming she or he will take it in a rational and mature fashion. I certainly wouldn't say anything that could be confused on the surface with, "I would, but I can't."

Re:For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant N... by ownagefool on Monday April 18, 2016 @02:36PM (#11522146)
Cool. You've now crippled the a girls self-esteem, where as using the nice way would give her the ability to lie to herself whilst making sure to never ask again.
Re:For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant N... by stcredzero on Monday April 18, 2016 @02:57PM (#11522288)
You've now crippled the a girls self-esteem

I find this weirdly Victorian. I should treat grown women as fragile flowers that can't take a straight answer?

Re:For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant N... by ownagefool on Monday April 18, 2016 @03:13PM (#11522395)
Which is the same way they treat you. I don't think it's my fault this escapes you but I must admit, it's neither really based on logic nor efficacy, it's a social thing.

Put more emphasis on "I want to avoid an awkward situation" and "I don't want to hurt their feelings" less on "but people are adults" and you're pretty much there though.

Re:For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant N... by qb45 on Monday April 18, 2016 @04:22PM (#11522893)
> lie to herself whilst making sure to never ask again.

How is this a good thing? It just confuses people.

Re:For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant N... by tome on Monday April 18, 2016 @11:30AM (#11520685)
> Making someone feel like a rapist for believing what is said or failing to correctly second guess is just weird and oppressive in itself.

It is unfortunate and I sympathise with your hurt feelings, but I think this is just something you should take on the chin.

Re:For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant N... by stcredzero on Monday April 18, 2016 @11:49AM (#11520857)
Double standards and requiring second guessing based on gender is as harmful now as it was in the 50's.
Re:For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant N... by vkou on Monday April 18, 2016 @06:30PM (#11523584)
For you, the wrong response to your question causes harm to your feelings.

For a woman, giving the wrong response to an obsessed creeper can cause harm to her career, her body, or her life. (Yes, I am quite aware that women can be creepy and violent. No, it is not a frequent power dynamic in the office.)

It would certainly be nice if we could be honest all the time, but you are demanding far too much in this bargain.