Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by munificent on Monday April 18, 2016 @04:24PM
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While there are good reasons to lament the many bad things going on in the world today, it's pretty fucking amazing that a disease that kills half a billion people is now described on Wikipedia as:
> Smallpox was an infectious disease caused by either of two virus variants, Variola major and Variola minor.
"Was".
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by novaleaf on Monday April 18, 2016 @07:22PM
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unfortunately it's still around, just not in the wild.
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by brianwawok on Monday April 18, 2016 @10:55AM
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Did not realize the depth of this. I guess I now understand why Europeans had decent immunity to it.. it was that or die.
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by encoderer on Monday April 18, 2016 @11:48AM
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Starting in the 18th century, people began inoculating themselves in large numbers. You'd do this with pus from a victim who had a mild case of it.
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by curtis on Monday April 18, 2016 @12:46PM
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The Wikipedia article on variolation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variolation) is pretty interesting. Edward Jenner's development of Smallpox vaccination seemed much less revolutionary to me once I learned about Smallpox inoculation/variolation.
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by mannykannot on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @07:23AM
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When you dig into the history of almost anything, you find a backstory that is missing from the popular story. To me, that makes it more interesting, but I'm a nerdy want-to-kknow-how-it-really-works guy.
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by Retric on Monday April 18, 2016 @10:06PM
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Variolation was still risky with a significant risk of contracting the disease and thus death or even starting a new outbreak. So, the vaccine was still a rediculusly huge step forward.
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by Retric on Monday April 18, 2016 @09:56PM
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Variolation was still risky with a ~1% risk of death and a significant chance of starting a new outbreak. So, the vaccine was still a rediculusly huge step forward.
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by brianwawok on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @01:03PM
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So basically Variolation was MySpace, and Vaccination was Facebook?
Took an existing idea, cranked it up a notch, and sold it to the masses?
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by encoderer on Monday April 18, 2016 @11:47AM
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Great comment. It was truly an indiscriminate killer. I'm reminded of one of those kings -- the Sun King Louis XIV -- who made it to his elderly years. Then one day he has his kingly way with a 12 year old girl who happened to be carrying the disease.
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by jbmorgado on Monday April 18, 2016 @12:06PM
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Louis XIV died from a gangrene caused by a combination of gout and syphilis. Not from smallpox.
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by encoderer on Monday April 18, 2016 @03:49PM
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Ha, you are right. It was Louis XV.
It's been a while since I read French history.
Re:The Black Death: The Greatest Catastrophe (2005)
by BrandoElFollito on Thursday April 28, 2016 @10:54AM
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How Louis XV got infected is unknown. There are several theories but not that one. The Parc-aux-Cerfs (place whet he was meeting girls brought there by Mme de Pompadour) was not in use for many years already (since Mme de Berry become his mistress).
Smallpox is 10,000+ years old was responsible for an estimated 300–500 million deaths during the 20th century alone. It killed between 20–60 percent of those infected and and over 80 percent of infected children. It caused lifetime issues for ~85% of the survivors including ~1/3 of all historical cases of blindness. As recently as 1967, the World Health Organization estimated that 15 million people contracted the disease and that two million died in that year.
Highlights include the epidemic of 735–737 is believed to have killed as much as one-third of the population. At least seven religious deities have been specifically dedicated to smallpox. By the mid-18th century smallpox was a major endemic disease everywhere in the world except in Australia and in several small islands. In Europe smallpox was a leading cause of death in the 18th century, killing an estimated 400,000 Europeans each year, including five kings. Up to 10 percent of Swedish infants died of smallpox each year,[10] and the death rate of infants in Russia may have been even higher.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox