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Re:In Cramped and Costly Bay Area, Cries to Build, Baby, Build by ekianjo on Saturday April 16, 2016 @01:57PM (#11511576)
Im in japan too and there are very clear zoning rules per area. There are very clear bedtowns with no industries or commerces but its probably not near where you live. There is very little freedom to build new things that is why you get extremely expensive apartments and rents. This prevents people to live on their own unless they are married and get enough income for that.

And its the first time i hear someone say that 30 years limit for buildings is a good thing. In practice they use shitty and cheap materials, have no isolation so its too hot in summer and cold in winter and it looks like shit. They dont build anything to last and its not a good aspect since its wasteful.

Re:In Cramped and Costly Bay Area, Cries to Build, Baby, Build by nihonde on Saturday April 16, 2016 @10:56PM (#11513299)
Yes, I can understand your views. I guess it's possible to disagree about this. I've seen how bad things are in America in terms of affordable housing, so the options in Japan seem quite nice by comparison.

As for bedroom communities without commerce, I would attribute that to: (1) an excellent public transportation infrastructure, and (2) an overall migration of livelihoods to Tokyo/Osaka-scale urban centers. My experience (in Nagoya) is that there are offices and light industry mixed with residential in every direction until you reach 里山. In fact, many people that I know operate businesses out of their homes, including light manufacturing, restaurants, etc.——something you cannot do in most American cities.

And finally, I can certainly understand your view on the "disposable" nature of housing here, but I still think it makes good sense. This is earthquake and typhoon country, so the codes change with advances in technology. The industrial nature of the housing business here drives the cost way down. In America, residential construction projects are notoriously difficult, over-budget, and late. Compared the efficiency of scale of a company like Sekisui, American contractors are an unfunny joke. I have seen homes built in Japan with a crew of no more than three or four men, plus a few traffic guards, in just a few weeks. And they work quietly and keep the area clean. I can build a new house in my city in Japan for around US$150,000——something that is completely impossible in most American cities. (The price of land here in another matter, of course. It's very expensive.)

I will never understand why Americans pour money into old houses. Even 伊勢神宮 is rebuilt every twenty years, and it's more than two thousand years old!

Re:In Cramped and Costly Bay Area, Cries to Build, Baby, Build by nihonde on Sunday April 17, 2016 @05:24AM (#11513957)
This interesting video of Kumamoto earthquake wreckage puts this discussion in context. You can see clearly the kinds of construction——old and new——that is typical in Japan. Most of it holds up to the quake very well, despite being disposed to quick, cheap, and clean building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Vqo3COVSg

Re:In Cramped and Costly Bay Area, Cries to Build, Baby, Build by thaumasiotes on Sunday April 17, 2016 @02:57AM (#11513762)
> I will never understand why Americans pour money into old houses. Even 伊勢神宮 is rebuilt every twenty years, and it's more than two thousand years old!

A lot of Americans are under the illusion that when they buy a house, most of the value is the house. It's actually the land (bought as a package deal), but the perception that the house is valuable drives the behavior that's confusing you.