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Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by balls187 on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:14PM (#11497908)
> My biggest complaint with Kobe is that he scored a lot of points because he took a lot of shots.

Isn't that the point of basketball?

Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by phamilton on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:25PM (#11498024)
The point is to make shots, not just take them.

EDIT: There's roughly a finite number of shots a team can take in a game. If one player takes most of the shots, then sure they will score a lot of points. But are they maximizing team points? If other members of the team have a higher shooting percentage then taking less shots and passing the ball around will be advantageous.

Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by rossta on Thursday April 14, 2016 @02:39PM (#11499303)
This doesn't account for the possibility that his teammates have a higher percentage because Kobe is the biggest threat to take a shot and the opposing team sets up to defend accordingly.
Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by balls187 on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:26PM (#11498036)
The point is to out score your opponent.
Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by phamilton on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:36PM (#11498163)
As a team. Not as an individual. Kobe taking 50 shots and going for 40+ is orthogonal to the team winning.
Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by balls187 on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:57PM (#11498377)
Lakers win-loss record w/ Kobe Bryant (up to 2013):

Regular Season: 878-468 (.652) Post Season: 137-89 (.606)

There is a strong correlation between Kobe Bryant's scoring, and winning Laker's seasons.

Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by phamilton on Thursday April 14, 2016 @01:22PM (#11498656)
Kobe Bryant being integral to the Laker's success is absolutely correct. The Laker's made the strategic decision to structure everything around him and it worked well. No doubt that would have failed with a less talented individual.

However, it is important to view his accomplishments in that light. He scored 40+ points in games because the team basically said "Let's have Kobe score 40+ points today". Because of that, his absolute point totals aren't great markers for individual talent.

Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by balls187 on Thursday April 14, 2016 @02:12PM (#11499112)
I wonder if on some forum for Basketball fans somewhere, some folks are sitting around discussing PG's impact on technology and startups.
Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by lotharbot on Thursday April 14, 2016 @04:31PM (#11500093)
I've quoted pg on a basketball forum before.
Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by huac on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:19PM (#11497957)
not all shots are created equal - the "long 2" has a lower expected value than taking a few steps back for a 3-pointer, or finishing at the rim for an easier 2

we can't really hold kobe's last game against him imo - he's definitely been a ballhog but if it's his last game he should have the opportunity to shoot until his arms fall off

Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by phamilton on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:35PM (#11498152)
I thought it was a wonderful and fitting final game. Kobe playing like he has his whole career. It was great.
Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by hinkley on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:31PM (#11498089)
The point of basketball is to sell tickets and paraphernalia, and he's got that part covered. I'm sure the owners are perfectly happy.

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Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by st3v3r on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:58PM (#11498382)
Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by hinkley on Friday April 15, 2016 @01:01AM (#11502287)
The two are not mutually exclusive!
Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by st3v3r on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:56PM (#11498370)
It's a team sport, though. There's more players than Kobe out there.
Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by balls187 on Thursday April 14, 2016 @01:06PM (#11498477)
How many of those players are as skilled as Kobe?

The biggest knock people seem to have against Kobe is that unlike Jordan, he didn't elevate the game of his teammates.

Re:Every shot Kobe Bryant ever took by aljones on Thursday April 14, 2016 @01:24PM (#11498668)
Which I find to be a pretty weird idea. The list of players that played their best while playing with Kobe is long and varied.