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Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by grecy on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @05:54PM (#11483911)
You're right to be skeptical, because this is going to be very difficult and has many challenges that need to be overcome.

But that doesn't mean we should sit here and say "nope, can't be done".

People were skeptical when planes first flew, when it was attempted to put people on the moon, and so on.

Jeez, people were skeptical when SpaceX said they could land a first stage on a barge at sea, and posted endlessly about how it couldn't be done.

Don't be one of those people.

Even if they "fail" to make all of this work and get something to Alpha Centauri, they're still going to vastly expand mankind's knowledge of a lot of difficult space-related technologies, which is a huge win.

This is hacker news, where people are trying to do difficult things to change the world. That's the whole point.

Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by rayiner on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @11:21PM (#11485466)
People were also skeptical of all the people before the Wright brothers who jumped off cliffs and killed themselves. Skepticism is the natural worldview of an engineer, because the universe is incredibly hostile to our ideas.
Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by IndianAstronaut on Wednesday April 13, 2016 @03:14AM (#11486353)
>Skepticism is the natural worldview of an engineer

This is in a nutshell why me and my (MBA)boss get into arguments.

Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by ScottBurson on Wednesday April 13, 2016 @04:31PM (#11491942)
If those people weren't optimists, they wouldn't have jumped off the cliffs.
Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by mliker on Wednesday April 13, 2016 @12:24AM (#11485735)
> "This is hacker news, where people are trying to do difficult things to change the world."

Hahaha, I say this partially in jest, but Hacker News is basically for people to bash on dreamers' ideas.

Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by duaneb on Wednesday April 13, 2016 @01:04AM (#11485874)
> Hahaha, I say this partially in jest, but Hacker News is basically for people to bash on dreamers' ideas.

I completely agree, though I prefer to look at it as "constructive criticism" of every flavor.

Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by xbmcuser on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @06:52PM (#11484282)
If nothing else they might work out how to send larger probes to far out parts of our solar system that reach in days instead of months and years.
Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by maxaf on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @06:56PM (#11484310)
This is exactly the point of long shot R&D: lesser milestones are useful in their own right. Who knows what else might come of it?
Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by jerryhuang100 on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @09:50PM (#11485127)
Skepticism could be constructive. Most of time people just want to improve some novel idea in question format. If someone really do not care about it they would not even bother to raise a question.

I do want to raise my hand about how the sails is going to avoid space objects (meteoroid, space dusts... visible, non-visible, or even dark matters) given its large surface.

Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by NZGumboot on Wednesday April 13, 2016 @02:25AM (#11486153)
Outside of Earth orbit, space objects become incredibly rare, and outside the solar system they are rarer still. There are much bigger problems to worry about, believe me.

By the way, dark matter is likely passing through your body right now. It's effects can only be seen on the scale of galaxies.

Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @06:00PM (#11483953)
I also am skeptical. Why not instead try to send a probe into the interior of the sun? (because its cooler there than at the point of those lasers) Why not create a survey of the Oort cloud (because its an order of magnitude closer). This project seems cool; but maybe not well thought out.
Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by grecy on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @09:25PM (#11485021)
These people are obviously very passionate about their project, and they're moving forward on something they want to do. If you're so passionate about those projects you mentioned, start making them happen!

Don't sit around complaining about people who are "doing" stuff because they're not doing the stuff you want them to be doing. Get out there and do the stuff yourself!

Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday April 13, 2016 @11:31AM (#11489029)
Good attitude! Still, it doesn't make their project any more likely to succeed. Those others I mentioned - easier by an order of magnitude. It makes them sound insincere.
Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by ryao on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @06:15PM (#11484051)
That depends on how much energy that the space craft reflects. If it reflects all of it, the space craft would not gain any heat at all unless there is some weird quantum effect that would mean otherwise.
Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @06:45PM (#11484235)
Likewise, such a spacecraft could survive the inside of the sun.
Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by nardi on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @07:02PM (#11484341)
I'm not a physicist, but it seems like perfectly reflecting photons in a vacuum is different from being immune to conductive heat transfer in a plasma.
Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by gunn on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @07:16PM (#11484433)
That and reflecting one wavelength vs a wide spectrum.
Re:A Visionary Project Aims for Alpha Centauri, a Star 4.37 ... by williamcotton on Wednesday April 13, 2016 @12:28AM (#11485744)
I'm skeptical that a guy who made his money by "transferring a variety of U.S.-pioneered internet business models to Russia" [1] and then muscling in on Silicon Valley investments like WhatsApp where he "bought a stake from the founders for $125 million within weeks of Facebook snapping up the messaging giant for $19 billion last year" [2] is capable of this kind of engineering project. He's good at making deals but he's not the kind of roll-up-your-sleeves engineer that should be involved with space exploration. I think he's just jealous of Elon Musk and Richard Branson. This seems more like the Spruce Goose than anything else, and in the same vein as Howard Hughes, I'm sure he'll be looking for a giant government grant to pay for his techno-playboy hobbies.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Milner

[2] http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2015/03/25/yuri-milne...