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Re:Online Dating and the Death of the 'Mixed-Attractiveness'... by nailer on Monday April 11, 2016 @04:04AM (#11470223)
No, genuinely funny. Thinks on their feet, actually holds frame. People who are bad at dating hear the same line delivered by someone attractive and unattractive and think the difference is their face: in reality, the attractive person is comfortable, playful and not concerned with one interaction not working out. The unattractive person is uncomfortable, is concerned about whether a single stranger finds them attractive or not.

My gym has plenty of men with amazing physiques who are absolutely awful with women. It also has a pudgy guy who's amazing.

Re:Online Dating and the Death of the 'Mixed-Attractiveness'... by mcphage on Monday April 11, 2016 @09:06AM (#11471171)
> actually holds frame

What does this mean?

Re:Online Dating and the Death of the 'Mixed-Attractiveness'... by VLM on Monday April 11, 2016 @09:58AM (#11471476)
Its a fair question. Something like disciplined stage presence.

Its kind of TRP dog whistle-ish, which is neither good nor bad.

Can you perform your joke or pickup line or whatever in an appealing manner with confidence and consistently without giggling or overreacting to your audience facial expression or generally looking anxious.

If you abstract out all the sex and the psychological rationalization behind it, its something like the audience would not find you flaky if you were presenting at a professional meeting. The presenter might be wrong or the audience might be completely uninterested, but they would describe it as presented well, by most common standards of presenting well. There's generally a side dish of smooth recovery from minor bumps in the road, which some people would consider a self evident part of the definition of "presenting well".

Originally, way back, the concept comes from the mix of the mental side of disciplined holding your frame of mind and the physical side of maintaining a strong frame when ballroom dancing or lifting.

Re:Online Dating and the Death of the 'Mixed-Attractiveness'... by olemartinorg on Monday April 11, 2016 @08:11AM (#11470969)
Huh, your comment made me realize a new aspect of why I utterly failed at Tinder when I tried it, and have much better luck in real life. I guess I'm far more confident and funny than attractive! Makes sense.
Re:Online Dating and the Death of the 'Mixed-Attractiveness'... by rectify on Monday April 11, 2016 @01:57PM (#11473663)
Sorry but that sounds like coping.

I've witnessed women ignore a funny guy with a good personality or body for a boring "beta acting" guy with a highly attractive face.

Re:Online Dating and the Death of the 'Mixed-Attractiveness'... by nailer on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @06:09AM (#11478303)
Sure, people fuck it up all the time. You don't want to be 'entertaining' funny, you want to be charming - you want to seen sexually, not as if you're there to amuse someone.