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Re:Congratulations You’ve Been Fired by nostrademons on Saturday April 09, 2016 @09:23PM (#11464352)
I felt like most of my managers at Google tried pretty hard at this. We certainly did have conversations about what I wanted long-term within my career and how that might best be accomplished within the organization.

Ultimately, I ended up deciding that what I wanted couldn't be achieved inside Google, but they certainly made the effort.

Re:Congratulations You’ve Been Fired by rgbrgb on Saturday April 09, 2016 @09:56PM (#11464480)
I had a similar experience to this at amazon. I think the nature of programming work is so murky that it makes sense to do this even if you don't care about the employee (though my managers genuinely seemed to). What I mean by murky is that similar looking amounts of work can take 2 days or 2 weeks depending on how excited the engineer is about the project. Maybe it's more common with engineering managers for this reason?
Re:Congratulations You’ve Been Fired by alsetmusic on Saturday April 09, 2016 @10:51PM (#11464617)
I spent nearly a decade moving up within another hugely successful tech company and every manager I ever had took time with me once or twice a year to discuss my goals and to outline steps I could take to reach them. Perhaps this is a cultural trait of successful companies (those dominant within their field) that helps them reach such heights.
Re:Congratulations You’ve Been Fired by chrisyeh on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:06PM (#11464671)
When companies treat their employees with respect like this, good employees end up staying longer and accomplishing more, which is good for both parties.
Re:Congratulations You’ve Been Fired by mcguire on Sunday April 10, 2016 @03:04PM (#11467628)
"I spent nearly a decade moving up within..."

That's a characteristic of lifetime employment, not the kind of jobs under discussion here.

Re:Congratulations You’ve Been Fired by chrisyeh on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:05PM (#11464666)
I'm curious...are you still in touch with those managers? Did their efforts convince you to maintain a relationship even after you left?
Re:Congratulations You’ve Been Fired by anonymous5789 on Saturday April 09, 2016 @10:40PM (#11464589)
At five years there, I have yet to have that conversation. 1:1s are either what I'm working on or more promises about "this will make a really strong promotion case." Namely motivation for working on whatever shit work needs doing next.
Re:Congratulations You’ve Been Fired by kmonsen on Sunday April 10, 2016 @01:21AM (#11465027)
Some Google managers are good, some are average and a few are not good at all. Try to work for the first ones.

How to do that? That is the hard part, net work and move on when you work for a bad one.

Re:Congratulations You’ve Been Fired by chrisyeh on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:06PM (#11464676)
Might be time to find an organization that believes in a mutual relationship, I'm afraid.