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Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by Klathmon on Saturday April 09, 2016 @10:50AM (#11461466)
The sea is filled with all kinds of stuff that pretty much ruins anything it gets into.

The cost of cleaning, refitting, and fixing issues from a splash landing is more expensive than doing it this way. At least that's what SpaceX's whole model is pretty much based on.

Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by username223 on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:09AM (#11461576)
Thanks. I'm just surprised that the cost of damage from seawater to a dumb rocket with a parachute and floats is more than the cost of a smart rocket making a much more error-prone landing on a tiny ship.
Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by CydeWeys on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:57AM (#11461798)
> I'm just surprised that the cost of damage from seawater to a dumb rocket with a parachute and floats

Maybe it helps to think by analogy. Which is harder, putting a car on a ferry to carry it across a river, or just driving it into the river and fishing it out the other end? Sure, you'll have to replace the engine and the electronics and lots of other stuff (i.e. all the most expensive parts of a car), but if you're only doing it once, it's cheaper to ford that river Oregon-Trail-style than to get yourself a ferry. But if you're doing it many times ...

The point is, there's lots of extremely high precision, expensive stuff on a rocket, that don't appreciate being dunked in water in exactly the same way that, say, your computer or car wouldn't. Those engines are incredibly complicated, high performance, and expensive, and they don't have the benefits of economies of scale like other consumer goods that are manufactured in the amounts of millions or billions per year. Each rocket has nine Merlin engines on it; that's an awful lot to essentially have to replace with every launch. The barge is cheaper.

Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by kpennell on Saturday April 09, 2016 @06:46PM (#11463777)
good stuff
Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by madlag on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:25AM (#11461652)
There is no such thing as a dumb rocket : to get down, they are using almost exactly the same stuff they use to get up, weight wise: they use the gimbaled engines, and the nitrogen attitude thrusters. The only additional devices are the grid fins, to control aerodynamically the descent, and the legs. Then you have to write the right software, and it does not weight much more ;-)
Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by Retric on Saturday April 09, 2016 @05:00PM (#11463301)
That and a little extra fuel. But, as you say probably less weight than you might think. Also, getting dunked in water probably adds quite a bit of new stresses so you would need a stronger rocket shell which is more wight.
Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by samstave on Saturday April 09, 2016 @01:44PM (#11462322)
Is this the first rocket with legs?

Seems like every thing else in history has really been a missile. This thing can land, so seems like it's literally the first rocket. Do we have a definition of missile vs rocket?

Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by ygra on Saturday April 09, 2016 @01:57PM (#11462404)
A missile historically has been anything that was thrown or launched. Nowadays it usually means a self-propelled weapon.

A rocket is just something with a rocket engine. Note that missiles do not need to use rocket engines and rockets don't need to carry warheads.

Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by lallysingh on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:23AM (#11461642)
After R&D you're just paying for the additional fuel to land safely. The control systems are already there for the other parts of the trip.

Also, I assume it's a lot easier to be sure that the rocket's in good shape if you don't have to check the interior for leaks, and whatever chemicals seeped in with the water?

Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by Retric on Saturday April 09, 2016 @10:57AM (#11461502)
They could add a water tight cap to both ends. But this gets into weight / stress issues.

PS: Being literal rocket scientists I a going to assume landing is a much more workable design.

Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by vrfcodf on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:14AM (#11461595)
What both ends? :-) This is a rocket, not a plastic tube.

And who plugs them, and where. In space, before landing?

Re:SpaceX just landed a rocket on a drone ship for the first... by partisan on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:45AM (#11461733)
This made me laugh out loud.

I think that one of the great things that comes out of this is that we start using our imaginations and trying to understand the whys and hows of space travel. It's really exciting to see.