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Re:Managed services killed DevOps by bpicolo on Friday April 08, 2016 @01:25PM (#11456299)
It really limits your ability to react when things DO go wrong. Not having direct access to hosts limits your options a crap ton
Re:Managed services killed DevOps by nasalgoat on Friday April 08, 2016 @03:39PM (#11457289)
It's ultimately a short-sighted choice - you get running really fast but then if you do well, you basically have to re-engineer from scratch.

It's basically the ultimate technical debt.

Re:Managed services killed DevOps by xref on Friday April 08, 2016 @04:03PM (#11457464)
This is what I'm worried about, PaaS lets you get going very quickly but if you succeed...well I haven't heard great stories about scaling out PaaS.

The situation I'm in is our apps currently do low enough traffic to exist in a PaaS, but they weren't built that way from the ground up and live on bare metal currently. Migrating to say, AWS, would using ElasticBeanstalk be burdening myself with technical debt I don't currently have vs using something like CloudFormation (Terraform) and CodeDeploy?

Re:Managed services killed DevOps by nasalgoat on Friday April 08, 2016 @04:53PM (#11457829)
Well, the question is - does that app have the potential to outgrow the SaaS offerings?

There's plenty of things that won't, for a long time, so you're fine to save the time since you won't need to re-do it later.

But if you can really see the product expanding to a large scale, you need to think a year or more into the future when planning your infrastructure.

Re:Managed services killed DevOps by bpicolo on Friday April 08, 2016 @09:48PM (#11459491)
I'm not sure that's always the case. If it's e.g. RDS, moving to your own Postgres cluster is doable when necessary