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Re:Technologists have produced a 3D-printed painting in the ... by gus_massa on Thursday April 07, 2016 @10:44PM (#11452265)
From http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/koans.html#id3141241

In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.

“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky.

“I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied.

“Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky.

“I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.

Minsky then shut his eyes.

“Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.

“So that the room will be empty.”

At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

Re:Technologists have produced a 3D-printed painting in the ... by Dylan16807 on Friday April 08, 2016 @01:15AM (#11452709)
Ugh. I see the point in general, but the eye closing is a really broken analogy, and there is a difference between a bias and a preconception.
Re:Technologists have produced a 3D-printed painting in the ... by sp332 on Friday April 08, 2016 @10:16AM (#11454770)
It's not the case that randomly-generated weights will not have biases. The point is that if you generate weights randomly the computer will still have biases, you just don't know what they will be.
Re:Technologists have produced a 3D-printed painting in the ... by nxzero on Friday April 08, 2016 @05:44AM (#11453569)
Yes, the difference between bias and preconception is exactly what, or are you being bias?

Seriously, lookup the meaning of the terms and see if what they mean are what you believe them to mean.

Re:Technologists have produced a 3D-printed painting in the ... by Dylan16807 on Friday April 08, 2016 @12:28PM (#11455896)
A preconception is an idea. A bias is much more general. If you're putting in a table, and you don't make it quite flat, you have biased the table, but you have not instilled preconceptions in the table.
Re:Technologists have produced a 3D-printed painting in the ... by nxzero on Thursday April 07, 2016 @10:46PM (#11452272)
Yes, I know, and agree.