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Re:Wind and solar are attracting the most funding by toomuchtodo on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:22PM (#11441731)
Not when you rebate it back to those under a certain income threshold.
Re:Wind and solar are attracting the most funding by SilasX on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:22PM (#11442225)
Better to just rebate a fixed amount to everyone so that you preserve the incentives for cutting back any marginal unit of fossil fuel consumption, while mitigating the overall income effect.
Re:Wind and solar are attracting the most funding by melling on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:35PM (#11441862)
How do you know what to rebate people? The carbon tax will hit more than their electric bill. Also, some people have greener electricity than others. Here's how electricity is generated by state:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/power-plant...

Re:Wind and solar are attracting the most funding by epistasis on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:04PM (#11442092)
If it affects the poor, it would make the most sense to rebate purely on income level, equally based on income level.

If the idea is to just give it back to the people that paid into it, that completelt defeats the entire purpose.

Re:Wind and solar are attracting the most funding by melling on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:31PM (#11442294)
So, someone who lives in a state with green electricity, and buys products from "green companies", will get the same as someone from a coal state, like West Virginia?

The question is why are you giving rebates to people who are mostly using green energy?

Re:Wind and solar are attracting the most funding by epistasis on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @06:08PM (#11442567)
Because they aren't dumping as much carbon into the atmosphere. Thats the entire point of it all! Those who are dumping carbon into the atmosphere are free loading on the rest of society, expecting others to pay for their externalities.

And it's not "giving rebate" it's returning tax revenues to those that can least afford them.

But there are many other sources of carbon than poorly planned electrical systems. Driving, flying, and industry.

Re:Wind and solar are attracting the most funding by melling on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @06:38PM (#11442821)
The poor person in West Virginia getting his electricity from dirty coal and driving a 10 year old F150 is getting the same rebate. He's buying stuff from Walmart that's shipped from China.

Are you rewarding people for using less carbon or is the rebate to help offset the cost past through from companies passing on the extra tax onto consumers? Two different claims are being made.

Re:Wind and solar are attracting the most funding by MaysonL on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @08:18PM (#11443553)
They may be getting the same rebate, but they aren't paying the same tax. If the rebate is the same for all, then those who use less will make a profit, considering the $rebate - $tax amounts, while those using more will pay more tax than they get in rebates. (This is assuming a revenue neutral arrangement).
Re:Wind and solar are attracting the most funding by will_hughes on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @10:08PM (#11444151)
I havn't looked into it in detail, but I was under the impression that it wasn't so much to affect consumer choices directly, as commercial behavior.

That is, putting a price on carbon will result in businesses either putting up prices, or choosing lower emission production options. All other things being equal, this should result in having lower emission companies having a pricing edge, and then consumers picking those products.