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Re:Nest Reminds Customers That Ownership Isn't What It Used ... by shitlord on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @10:13PM (#11436105)
Replace them with Z-Wave or Zigbee products instead. There are a lot of hubs out there which don't require cloud connectivity or a monthly connection.
Re:Nest Reminds Customers That Ownership Isn't What It Used ... by ocdtrekkie on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @02:06AM (#11436937)
INSTEON does a solid job. Their protocol is proprietary, but the devices aren't cloud dependent. You can either use a cloud hub device, or just a serial adapter to a PC or third party controller. They have no ability to take away my Insteon thermostat's functionality, or mine data from it. Because all translation of it's communication protocol goes through my computer, and is interpreted by open source software.
Re:Nest Reminds Customers That Ownership Isn't What It Used ... by andrewpe on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @12:36AM (#11436650)
I would stay away from anything Zigbee. It has become a complex mess