Re:WhatsApp's Signal Protocol integration is now complete
by derefr on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @03:07PM
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Linguistic tangent: the common suffix on those words is interesting. Is it required for Nahuatl nouns, like the Latin -t suffix? I notice that not all the other example words on the linked page-section have it, but a large majority do.
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Re:WhatsApp's Signal Protocol integration is now complete
by ar-jan on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @03:53PM
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t͡ɬ is a phoneme in Nahuatl [0] (Voiceless alveolar lateral affricate [1] if you care to hear it), which explains why many Nahuatl words have sequences of "tl". I don't know if there's a specific reason why these words end with that sound (it doesn't have to be a suffix).
Edit: yes, it's a suffix (for Classical Nahuatl): "Non-possessed nouns take a suffix called the absolutive. This suffix takes the form -tl after vowels (ā-tl, "water") and -tli after consonants [...]" ([2]).
0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl#Phonology
1:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolar_lateral_aff...
Re:WhatsApp's Signal Protocol integration is now complete
by thaumasiotes on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @05:39PM
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> Is it required for Nahuatl nouns, like the Latin -t suffix?
I don't understand what you're thinking of here? Here are some Latin nouns, all in nominative case:
nauta (first declension)
puer (second)
gladius (second)
malum (second)
lex (third)
limen (third)
tempus (third)
virtus (third)
civitas (third)
cornu (fourth)
manus (fourth)
res (fifth)
I gave the nominative case, but in fact none of those nouns has any form ending in -t. The only -t suffix I know of in Latin is for third-person singular verbs.
Re:WhatsApp's Signal Protocol integration is now complete
by derefr on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @07:20PM
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Ah, sorry, yes, I meant the verbs. Originally I was going to make a comparison to nouns—nouns in Lojban, which have a -j suffix.
Re:WhatsApp's Signal Protocol integration is now complete
by ekiru on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @01:04AM
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I'm confused and am not sure if you're thinking of something else or if I'm quite misinformed about Lojban. I don't think lojban has suffixes at all (prefixes, on the other hand). For -j specifically, the only words in lojban which are permitted to end in j are names, but there it's not obligatory. Names are required to end in a consonant, but there are at least a few that are more common than j, I think.
Re:WhatsApp's Signal Protocol integration is now complete
by smarinov on Thursday April 07, 2016 @12:38AM
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FWIW `-j` is the plural suffix for all nouns and adjectives in Esperanto (not in accusative where the full generic form followed by an additional `-n`), but I don't know whether the OP had that in mind or something completely different.