Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by tangent128 on Monday April 04, 2016 @03:34PM
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What value exists in bringing that capital back "in" to the USA if it provides no benefit to US citizens in doing so?
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by randyrand on Monday April 04, 2016 @04:45PM
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Its almost impossible to bring in wealth and not have it benefit people.
People dont keep their trillions of dollars under the mattress. Its invested.
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by noobermin on Monday April 04, 2016 @09:58PM
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>Its almost impossible to bring in wealth and not have it benefit people.
Tell that to Bernie and Trump supporters so they can all pipe down.
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by virmundi on Monday April 04, 2016 @03:55PM
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I agree, but the theory goes that eventually tax havens will disappear. Europe would probably adopt UBI along with us. So those lower rates would go away. China would do something similar or would be too scary for westerners to fully flee to. Right now many companies are fleeing to Europe for better corporate rates while their C level employees benefit from lower personal tax rates in the US.
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by home_boi on Monday April 04, 2016 @04:24PM
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Or some countries will take advantage of these fleeing westerners and keep their tax rates lower than the US
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by virmundi on Monday April 04, 2016 @04:59PM
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True. Then the US has to lower its rates or the low tax company has to increase due to social unrest. We see this with China. The rising wealth of the writing class is causing party increases. So large that work us coming back to the US or to other south Asian countries.
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by randyrand on Monday April 04, 2016 @04:43PM
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Or any enterprising country will keep their tax rates low and take all the manufacturing business. Go figure.
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by spinlock on Monday April 04, 2016 @03:41PM
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businesses would look at total operating costs. Taxes are increased but payroll is decreased. It's a win if you can structure it such that the savings in payroll are greater than the increase in tax.
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by bufordsharkley on Monday April 04, 2016 @03:47PM
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This is one reason why a UBI really needs to be attached to something that can't leave the country, namely a land-value tax.
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by camhenlin on Monday April 04, 2016 @03:32PM
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Yes but it won't matter because the newly displaced workers will receive basic income!
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by ThrustVectoring on Monday April 04, 2016 @04:53PM
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That's a most of why I'd like to fund GBI in part with a land-value tax.
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by msellout on Monday April 04, 2016 @04:14PM
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Empirically, no. Or at least not to the extent that many people fear. Many businesses are headquartered in NYC, despite the city's extra taxes.
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by Turing_Machine on Monday April 04, 2016 @04:52PM
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They may be "headquartered" in NYC, but they're domiciled in Delaware, Nevada, etc. and their production facilities are located in China or Indonesia.
Re:A Basic Income Is Smarter Than a Minimum Wage
by msellout on Monday April 04, 2016 @06:23PM
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They still employ a large number of New Yorkers.
And it's not just New York. Take any major city. Better employee productivity balances the higher costs. Not always, so some companies relocate. But many stay.
We already see corporations keeping massive amounts of capital overseas because of high tax rates. That money should and could be here in the USA.