Re:Erdogan’s Attempt to Suppress German Satire Has the Oppos...
by stale2002 on Thursday March 31, 2016 @07:18PM
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You can't go around talking about how people are "free to insult" but that other people have a right not to be insulted. That is BS double speak.
Either you believe in free speech or you don't. Don't pussy foot around it.
If you believe that people should be arrested for insulting people in the wrong way then SAY it! Dont hide behind some human dignity double speak.
Re:Erdogan’s Attempt to Suppress German Satire Has the Oppos...
by studentrob on Thursday March 31, 2016 @08:29PM
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@gkya doesn't have the American or even European understanding of free speech. He's got his own definition and I doubt we will be able to convince him via the internet how simple the issue is and how complicated he is making it. I'm totally with you, by the way.
You're free to insult, but you don't have to. If you do so, people will get offended, and you'll be excluded, ignored, or insulted back at. Again, you're free to insult, but there will be consequences, and by insulting you take the responsibility, and accept being excluded, or insulted at.
And everybody has a right to not be offended, which has to protect them from bullying, demeaning, racism, etc., called the "right to human dignity":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignity
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:120...
> Human dignity is inviolable. It must be respected and protected. (Article 1)
> Everyone has the right to respect for his or her physical and mental integrity. (Article 3/1)
> The right to conscientious objection is recognised, in accordance with the national laws governing the exercise of this right. (Article 10/2)
> Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. (Article 11)
> Any discrimination based on any ground such as sex, race, colour, ethnic or social origin, genetic features, language, religion or belief, political or any other opinion, membership of a national minority, property, birth, disability, age or sexual orientation shall be prohibited. (Article 21/1)
> Within the scope of application of the Treaties and without prejudice to any of their specific provisions, any discrimination on grounds of nationality shall be prohibited. (Article 21/2)