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Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by brandonmenc on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @04:52PM (#11384776)
A serious question to everyone complaining about uninsured drivers: do you ask your friends for proof of insurance before getting in their cars as passengers?

Do any insurance companies sell passenger insurance to cover accidents when you're the passenger in a car with an underinsured driver?

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by svachalek on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @05:13PM (#11384925)
1. No, but I have a pretty good understanding of the economic situation of my friends and would be very surprised if they are not in compliance with insurance requirements. Some guy who just drives up to my house, not so much.

2. There is something called "uninsured motorist insurance" which covers a variety of situations caused by drivers without insurance. You'd have to check the details of a given policy as to this situation. Even without that, your health, disability, and life insurance should apply.

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by massysett on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @05:15PM (#11384938)
I have health insurance, so treatment for my bodily injuries is covered. Someone else is driving, so if his negligence results in a wreck I generally won't be liable to the other driver. I won't be responsible for fixing his vehicle.

That covers most garden-variety car wrecks, so there is little need to be concerned about my friend's insurance. I suppose if I were really on top of things, I would ask my friends for proof of insurance anyway, because maybe I would want to sue him for pain and suffering, which his insurance might pay for (my health insurance would not pay for that, or for lost wages.)

Never seen "riding around in someone else's underinsured car" insurance. Typical umbrella policy wouldn't cover that unless I'm negligent. I suppose I could get disability coverage which might help protect against the lost wages from getting injured in someone else's car.

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by muzz on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @06:26PM (#11385440)
> I have health insurance, so treatment for my bodily injuries is covered

No, that's not how it typically works. If the injury was caused by car accident, your insurer will likely deny the claim. This happened to me when someone rear-ended me and I went to the ER to get checked out; I didn't want to file a claim with the other party's auto insurance but had to for payment of the ER visit.

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by massysett on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @07:10PM (#11385717)
Sorry your insurance is crummy. Mine explicitly says it will pay for my care and that my insurance company can seek damages from those who may be liable and their insurers.
Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by muzz on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @07:23PM (#11385784)
In California, health insurance is not required to and can ask for it back.

From the insurance dept website http://www.insurance.ca.gov/01-consumers/105-type/95-guides/... :

"If I am injured in an accident, does my health insurance pay anything?

Usually, your health insurance pays for your immediate medical care. Then your health insurance company will typically try to get back money from your auto insurance or the other person's auto insurance. When one insurance company tries to get money back from another insurance company, it is called subrogation."

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by bjterry on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @08:01PM (#11385959)
That situation only exists because the other party had auto insurance. If they didn't have auto insurance and you didn't have auto insurance that covered it, your health insurance policy would have covered it.
Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by jacquesm on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:18PM (#11386726)
Depends on your location more than anything else. Health insurance coverage varies wildly from one country to another.
Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by samstave on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @05:49PM (#11385193)
Your injuries could potentially be more than what your insurance would pay, thus your driving friend would be liable for the injuries.

Actually your insurer would likely go after his, assuming he had it, to get their costs mitigated.

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by massysett on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @05:58PM (#11385262)
> Your injuries could potentially be more than what your insurance would pay, thus your driving friend would be liable for the injuries.

I suppose that could happen to some, but my insurance pays for all care after I satisfy the flat out-of-pocket requirement.

I suppose my friend would be liable for the out-of-pocket cost, but that would typically be only several hundred dollars--a fair amount of money, but not much relatively speaking if this is a wreck that caused injuries.

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by muzz on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @06:27PM (#11385455)
Worse-- the insurer will deny the claim and make the patient go after the other person's insurance
Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by DanBC on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @05:27PM (#11385010)
Insurance companies tend to cover passengers, unless those passengers are there because you're doing weird things.

Car-pooling is sufficiently weird for insurers to require you to let them know you're doing it, and they may adjust the premiums.

As for whether I ask: yes, I do. Most of the people I get lifts from are insured as part of their job and a bunch of other people have checked for me; or it's public transport and again other people have checked for me.

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by gambiting on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @05:12PM (#11384912)
1) I don't, but I don't have any friends who would be so stupid as to not have insurance. If I do, that means my choices in friends are poor, but I hope not. On the other hand, when I'm getting into a car with a stranger I would really like to know if they have insurance. Just like I don't check the food my friends are serving me to make sure it's fresh,but when I go to a restaurant I expect relevant agencies to make sure that people employed there know how to cook and the place fulfils certain hygiene requirements.

2) I guess if that happened my home insurance would cover it. I'm honestly not sure what would be there to cover if I was a passenger though, even if I had to be hospitalized it wouldn't cost a penny(national health care).

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by brandonmenc on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @05:14PM (#11384935)
> I don't have any friends who would be so stupid as to not have insurance

You might be surprised.

Probably less surprising is that they might be insured, but have taken out the minimum required for passengers.

> I'm honestly not sure what would be there to cover if I was a passenger though, even if I had to be hospitalized it wouldn't cost a penny

Pain and suffering, lost wages, cosmetic surgery.

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by gambiting on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @05:30PM (#11385028)
>>Probably less surprising is that they might be insured, but have taken out the minimum required for passengers.

In EU any car insurance, no matter the premium, has to cover minimum 5 million euro for bodily harm and 1 million euro in property damage, so this is not an issue. But lyft does not operate here so it does not matter.

>>Pain and suffering, lost wages, cosmetic surgery. Yeah, I can agree with those.

Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by Spooky23 on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @06:44PM (#11385574)
Yes. Your auto liability insurance covers you in any personal vehicle.
Re:Lyft Carpool: A New Way to Commute by brandonmenc on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @01:08AM (#11387098)
afaik liability insurance only covers passengers when you are the driver (hence, "liable") and either typically, or always, not at all if you're a passenger - according to my sister, who works in the insurance industry - and, additionally, all of this varies greatly from state to state in the US.