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Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by djloche on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:19AM (#11382076)
>>"He was particularly protective of Le Roux’s birth mother, making me promise not to reveal her name. “Sad and interesting story,” he said. “His real mom’s mom is married to a U.S. Senator.” When I asked him who the Senator was, he said, “That I can’t say, mate. That’ll get me shot.”"

This is probably a bigger story.

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by akhilcacharya on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:36AM (#11382217)
He was born in '72, it's reasonable to assume that his birth grandmother was born around 1930, and that either she was of Rhodesian citizenship or her daughter was a missionary.

If this is part is legitimate that is.

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by pklausler on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @01:28PM (#11383122)
It took me five minutes on Wikipedia and NNDB to narrow the possibilities down to only four senators; the rest are women, too young, married too late, or only had sons.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by avn2109 on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @01:43PM (#11383280)
Might not be a current sitting Senator.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by akhilcacharya on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @01:40PM (#11383251)
Wow, I should take a crack at it.

Any hints? Hah.

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by ocdtrekkie on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:24AM (#11382109)
This doesn't seem like it'd be incredibly hard to prove if true. Senator's wives are a pretty limited group of people to look into for a connection.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by maxerickson on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:30AM (#11382161)
It'd be the daughter having the child in another country in the early 1970s.

I guess there is a good chance that there is no paper trail and a very small number of people that know any details and are still alive (because it happened 40 years ago, not because of anything nefarious).

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by jessaustin on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:37AM (#11382225)
If one were actually interested, maybe one could just look at all Senator's wives' daughters who traveled internationally in that timeframe?
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by maxerickson on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:40AM (#11382250)
Sure, I think that would be revealing. I think it would be a pretty large amount of work to make that list though, and it might not lead anywhere.

(like, did the daughter go there quietly for 4 months under an assumed name because the Senator was friends with a doctor...)

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by langseth on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @05:53PM (#11393336)
I suspect this information would actually be really hard if not impossible to track down. The actions of D-list celebrities, and I am not even sure a senator's daughter would qualify that high, in the 1970s is not reported like it is in today's 24/7 news cycle.

And, I can't imagine international flight passengers were tracked that closely either, much less stored for over 40 years.

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by digibo on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @12:32PM (#11382684)
This is starting to sound dangerously close to doxing (esp. if anything found is shared), even if it's out of pure curiosity.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by maxerickson on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @12:41PM (#11382748)
There's a pretty big difference between speculating about what information to look for and actually tracking it down and publicizing it.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by jessaustin on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @01:27PM (#11383108)
I don't think this really contradicts what 'digibo said. That comment seems to refer to the latter as doxxing.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by maxerickson on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @01:50PM (#11383346)
That's how I read it too, I just don't think we are dangerously close to doing it.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by ikeboy on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:27AM (#11382139)
But adoption records are probably hard to get.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by maxerickson on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:31AM (#11382181)
The mother's name is redacted from the birth certificate shown in the story.

It's the link from that name to a Senator that is missing.

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by BinaryIdiot on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @12:09PM (#11382494)
Maybe? Most of this story is just an account of 1-2 people. Who knows if any of it is really true. I'm intrigued but unmoved without more data.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by falsestprophet on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:35AM (#11382208)
US Senators generally are not powerful enough to have people shot.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by kbenson on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @12:12PM (#11382522)
You are assuming the violence would be carried out using senatorial powers. Senators are generally very wealthy people, and it doesn't take that much money to hire someone to kill another person[1].

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_killing#Statistics [2]

2: I have to say I was fairly hesitant to search for that data. It's not the kind of thing you want showing up in your search history...

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by nickpsecurity on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @09:53PM (#11386425)
I met all kinds of people living in one of the murder capitals of the U.S. from public events to parties to tattoo shops. Some we know just don't bullshit. All I'll say is that I was told the hits are cheaper than new cars with the kills themselves dirt cheap. Most of the money goes to people in positions that determine what the courtroom or media will see. Lots of missing persons, etc aren't what they appear. I didn't ask for more information.

Far as Senators, they have bulletproof PR, low likelihood of prosecution, and ties with LEO's. They'll just ignore someone's claims, have legal action taken in a legit-looking way, or have LEO's harass the person. The latter tends to cause mental wear that makes the source's writings and actions become more erratic over time. They are dismissed as having mental illness. People are only killed when it's a straight-up blackop that they're also a serious, persistent threat to. That's rare given the selection process, planning, and field experience of those involved in such work.

So, I'd say the numbers on contract killing aren't relevant here. It's possible but unlikely. The only exception is those like Feingold deep in defense-related matters. An overlap between dirty Senators, money, and black ops has risk or results I could only guess at. I won't bother.

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by LyndsySimon on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @03:22PM (#11384134)
> I have to say I was fairly hesitant to search for that data. It's not the kind of thing you want showing up in your search history...

That, in and of itself, is a very interesting phenomenon, don't you think?

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by kbenson on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @04:01PM (#11384416)
Yes and no. My hesitation was twofold. On one side, there was the thought that if there was tracking, it could flag something, but I viewed that as mostly an irrational fear, since I doubt there's any other indicators I put out, and I doubt I'm worth following that closely.

On the other, it's just kind of embarrassing if I had to explain why that showed up in my search history if for some reason it was exposed. That's also an irrational fear, since there's no reason anyone I know would see it, but I generally try to error on the side of caution when it comes to privacy. Really, I was thinking "I hope I remember to look up this comment if this ever comes up for any reason, because that could be awkward..."

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by peterkelly on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @01:49AM (#11387213)
It's not an irrational fear.

Here's what happened when a husband and wife separately searched for information on pressure cookers and backpacks:

http://www.thewire.com/national/2013/08/government-knocking-...

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by stordoff on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @03:38PM (#11384262)
> The study [by the Australian Institute of Criminology] also found that the average payment for a "hit" was $15,000

That's a surprisingly low amount. I'd've guessed $100k+ or more.

Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by venomsnake on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @06:14PM (#11385365)
That is average. Since no one will investigate the death of a some low level guy with criminal history (just gang warfare for redistributing the market) I guess you could find them on the low end. And that leave some bigger sums for the high profile targets.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by jacquesm on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @05:02PM (#11384847)
Lower still in places like Amsterdam. Really.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by mc32 on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:44AM (#11382296)
I'm not sure I'd take that assertion at face value. It seemed to read more on par with something like "I took my moms car for a ride, if she finds out, she'll kill me" kind of hyperbola. Could be wrong, since there are arms dealers involved, but still, I don't think they rub people out like that and risk exposure.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by rm_-rf_slash on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:40AM (#11382257)
Not openly, but let's say some powerful people have powerful friends in government, who both have troublesome enemies. If those troublesome enemies were no longer a part of the picture, things would work out so well for everyone, don'tcha think?
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by prdonahue on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @01:08PM (#11382952)
What a blanket statement with no backing. Do you mean in their official capacity? If so, state this. Do you mean they don't have the unofficial connections? If so, you're out of your mind.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by the_ancient on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:55AM (#11382368)
Depends on which Sub Committee they are on, and what position they hold on it....
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by cbsmith on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @01:22PM (#11383062)
I wouldn't assume it was the US Senator who'd want to have him killed.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by gnaritas on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @02:45PM (#11383824)
Sure they are, anyone with money is powerful enough and Senators generally have truck loads of money.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by golergka on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @12:07PM (#11382482)
Having someone shot is pretty cheap.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by jessaustin on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:37AM (#11382234)
They can do favors for such people.
Re:He Always Had a Dark Side by leoc on Tuesday March 29, 2016 @11:58AM (#11382398)
They've had to resort to drowning people themselves on occasion.