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Re:In Facebook’s Hometown, the First Responders Aren’t Local by lisper on Saturday March 26, 2016 @08:53PM (#11368289)
Restricted development is one of the reasons the peninsula is such a desirable place to live. There's a lot of open space, and expensive housing helps keep out the riff-raff. (Note to downvoters: the reference to riff-raff was intended to be ironically humorous in the context of a story about how the people being kept out are firefighters and teachers.)
Re:In Facebook’s Hometown, the First Responders Aren’t Local by scurvy on Saturday March 26, 2016 @09:02PM (#11368325)
Wait, if the bad influence of riff raff is kept out, what's to explain the staggering teen suicide rate in Palo Alto? It's the best place in the world! Our high cost of living dictates it!
Re:In Facebook’s Hometown, the First Responders Aren’t Local by lisper on Saturday March 26, 2016 @09:19PM (#11368373)
I was being a little bit ironic about the riff-raff. (I was hoping this would be obvious in the context of a discussion of how firefighters and teachers can't afford to live here, but HN tends to be a little humor-impaired.)

But I don't see why you would think that the teen suicide rate would have anything to do with how desirable it is to live in Palo Alto. People get depressed for all kinds of reasons, but how nice your neighborhood is is very rarely one of them. The high suicide rate in PA is tragic. But it doesn't change the fact that PA is a nice place to live if you can afford it, and one of the things that makes it a nice place to live is that the density is low but the wealth concentration is high.

Re:In Facebook’s Hometown, the First Responders Aren’t Local by scurvy on Sunday March 27, 2016 @02:07PM (#11370819)
And all the money in the world can't buy you happiness, so stop turning communities into country clubs.
Re:In Facebook’s Hometown, the First Responders Aren’t Local by lisper on Sunday March 27, 2016 @03:15PM (#11371101)
Money is neither necessary nor sufficient for happiness, but that doesn't mean that it can't help tilt the odds heavily in your favor. Money is a tool. If you use it right you can get a lot of leverage out of it, and if you use it wrong you can do a lot of damage. But it's very rarely a no-op.

And what's wrong with turning communities into country clubs? Country clubs are very pleasant places to be. Why not make your community like one if you can?

Re:In Facebook’s Hometown, the First Responders Aren’t Local by username223 on Saturday March 26, 2016 @10:02PM (#11368507)
> Wait, if the bad influence of riff raff is kept out, what's to explain the staggering teen suicide rate in Palo Alto?

Natural selection?

Re:In Facebook’s Hometown, the First Responders Aren’t Local by joshAg on Saturday March 26, 2016 @09:24PM (#11368385)
So let's ignore the troubling implications of your use of 'riff-raff' for the moment and assume that your basic premise is true: restricting development keeps out certain people.

The more more development restrictions there are, the more people will be kept out. At a certain point, the people who are kept out are will include people who you wouldn't otherwise want to keep out, however, you define that. And this doesn't have to be a result of increasing the restrictions on development. For example if there are more 'desirable' people who want to move to the area than there are available houses/new developments, then some of the desirable people will be forced out.

Of course, there's also the major untrue assumption that you make that the only way to maintain open space and desirability is to restrict development. Higher density infill housing doesn't intrude on the existing open space, sicne by definition it's slotting in between buildings in already developed areas. And of course, places like Singapore, Hong Kong, Paris, and New York City are proofs by existence that desirability and less restrictive development are not mutually exclusive.

But let's get back to 'riff-raff' and keeping that out. That's just racist and classist.

Re:In Facebook’s Hometown, the First Responders Aren’t Local by lisper on Saturday March 26, 2016 @09:48PM (#11368451)
> some of the desirable people will be forced out

Yes, that's kind of the whole point of the original article.

> Singapore, Hong Kong, Paris, and New York City

I have been to all of those places, and while they are all wonderful to visit I would not want to live in any of them in large part because of how dense they are. Building more housing is not a no-brainer. You're just trading one set of problems for a different set of problems.

> But let's get back to 'riff-raff' and keeping that out. That's just racist and classist.

It was intended as ironic humor. But I apologize if you were offended.