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Re:I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS by rdtsc on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @04:04PM (#11347741)
I got a cheap-o Moto G for $170 3 years ago and love that thing. It is small 4" only, got reasonable updates (up to 5.1 now). It is simple to use.

Yeah Google owns my life, but I wouldn't feel better if Apple owned it instead. Never felt the need to tweak hardware, or run Cyanogen and others. Once I wanted more memory for my music. But then deleted some of the music I didn't want and was fine.

Best part if I sit on it and break it, I'll just go find another $170 Moto G without blinking an eye.

I have a full time job and all but shelling out $700 for a phone I can drop, loose, break is not in my budget yet. Maybe one day...

Re:I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS by billyhoffman on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @04:26PM (#11347923)
> Yeah Google owns my life, but I wouldn't feel better if Apple owned it instead

Why? Apple makes money selling you hardware. Google makes money selling you to advertisers.

I'm not comfortable with any company figuratively "owning" my life, but if I have to choose, the one that isn't built on scummy ads will get my money every single time.

Re:I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS by mastazi on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @06:39PM (#11348845)
Whenever I try to get iCloud actually working [1] I kind of wish Apple was actually interested in owning my data ;-)

Rants apart, this fact:

> Apple makes money selling you hardware. Google makes money selling you to advertisers.

has a direct consequence: cloud services made by Apple are generally inferior compared to those made by Google[2].

Now of course if you value privacy over everything you might prefer to save your data locally rather than in the cloud, but I have too many devices lost or broken to go that way.

[1] https://support.apple.com/kb/index?q=backup+could+not+be+com...

[2] http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/3/10900612/walt-mossberg-appl...

Re:I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS by mastazi on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @07:18PM (#11349146)
Why the downvote? I don't mind but care to elaborate?
Re:I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS by criddell on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @04:32PM (#11347979)
> Google makes money selling you to advertisers.

That's a little misleading. Google makes money showing you ads. It's not like I can call up Google and buy billyhoffman's data.

Re:I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS by threeseed on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @05:12PM (#11348284)
Governments can however.

And with Apple they have a demonstrated history of protecting privacy at any cost. Google not so much.

Re:I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS by chetanahuja on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @07:48PM (#11349358)
Umm...

https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/userdatarequests/l...

http://images.apple.com/privacy/docs/government-information-...

There's not that much difference between what the two of them provide to governments as a response to legal requests.

Also note that Apple continues to operate in China while Google refused to cooperate with the government there and gave up huge business potential in that country.

Re:I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS by criddell on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @05:22PM (#11348373)
Sure, there's a chance for government abuse of my data, no argument. There are also significant benefits to me for sharing with Google. For me (and I suspect for most Americans), the real benefits exceed the likely costs.

I worry far more about things like getting into a car wreck, falling in the shower, and my crappy diet.

Re:I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS by Kye on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @04:27PM (#11347929)
I just got a Moto G3, and the 6.0 upgrade. Almost zero complaints so far. My only gripe is it occasionally has to restart apps with 1GB of memory. I would go with the 2GB model if I had a time machine.
Re:I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS by XJOKOLAT on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @07:02PM (#11349010)
Am in the same boat ... Moto G (3rd gen) has been the best decision of my mobile life for a long time.

Stock android, waterproof, swift, solid (I've dropped it an unbelievable amount of times (my HTC's didn't survive even one drop)).

The UI is absolutely fine. Nice and clean and quick. And I concur, don't need to fiddle with anything.

Brilliant phone. I'll have it over an iphone or Sammy £500 phone in a second.