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Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by rawnlq on Thursday March 17, 2016 @08:23PM (#11308851)
I wonder if there's any advantage for Apple to form their own sovereign nation to operate out of. They are already richer than many existing countries. Can't they just buy out a Singapore-sized island somewhere?
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by saulrh on Thursday March 17, 2016 @08:43PM (#11308977)
You know, cyberpunk fiction always theorized that corporations would buy their own sovereignty for economic advantage or removing pesky laws against child labor, the first amendment, or slavery. I never expected them to do it in pure, honest self-defense.
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by peterkelly on Thursday March 17, 2016 @08:55PM (#11309042)
I've always thought of Singapore as the "Apple" of countries. Incredibly modern, clean, organised, and well-presented. But run according to very strict rules, like banning chewing gum entirely, and $500 fines for littering.
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by avar on Friday March 18, 2016 @04:47AM (#11310599)
Funny how a lot of Americans think banning chewing gum is oppressive but don't realize the similarity in the USA entirely banning Kinder Surprise eggs.

Lots of arbitrary stuff is banned in a lot of countries. Singapore just thought the littering cons of gum outweighed the pros.

Note that stuff like nicotine gum and other "therapeutic" chewing gum is still allowed, they just don't allow the candy that leads to littering.

And honestly looking around in a lot of cities where the entirety of downtown is slowly growing into a white blob composed of little individual pieces of squashed chewing gum I don't blame them.

Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by DigitalSea on Friday March 18, 2016 @08:14AM (#11311226)
> looking around in a lot of cities where the entirety of downtown is slowly growing into a white blob composed of little individual pieces of squashed chewing gum

Gum wall in Seattle, case in point.

Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by naaaaak on Thursday March 17, 2016 @09:07PM (#11309089)
If this becomes a thing, the world is going to run out of islands faster than companies can buy them to evade totalitarian governments.
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by rawnlq on Thursday March 17, 2016 @10:15PM (#11309393)
This is getting really off topic but this is a potential solution: https://www.quora.com/If-someone-were-to-build-an-artificial...

And there's only a handful of companies large enough to do this: http://www.businessinsider.com/25-corporations-bigger-tan-co...

Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by rqebmm on Thursday March 17, 2016 @09:18PM (#11309144)
Not if the sovereign state of Applestan starts offering attractive lease options
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by snowwrestler on Friday March 18, 2016 @01:00AM (#11310007)
There's probably no advantage; to do business in the U.S., a company must comport with U.S. laws. If Apple moved their HQ to the Sovereign Island of SteveJobistan, they would still have to follow U.S. court orders if they wanted to sell products to Americans within the borders of the U.S.
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by X0Refraction on Friday March 18, 2016 @06:43AM (#11310909)
But would the U.S. populace put up with not being able to buy Apple devices at all? That starts sounding like restriction on free trade to the average American which is something they are much more likely to stand against as the government couldn't leverage fear to make the populace go against their own interests.
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by antihero on Friday March 18, 2016 @07:12AM (#11311007)
Stopping the sale of Apple devices and temporarily disabling US iPhones would probably be the singular most socially impacting event in recent history. If you want people to revolt, take their favourite toy away and blame the government.
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by snowwrestler on Friday March 18, 2016 @10:45AM (#11312105)
Would Apple's shareholders put up with Apple not being able to sell into the U.S. market?

We're getting into "kill the company to make a point" territory, which is probably not realistic however we might imagine they do it.

Whatever leverage Apple has over the federal government will come from the millions of citizens who are customers, shareholders, developers, fans, employees, etc. They can activate those people just as well from Cupertino as they can from their own island.

Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday March 17, 2016 @08:30PM (#11308899)
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by TazeTSchnitzel on Thursday March 17, 2016 @09:53PM (#11309278)
Some have suggested Apple use its massive cash reserves to bail out Greece.
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by Matt3o12_ on Friday March 18, 2016 @12:06AM (#11309810)
Couldn't the government just ban sales from that country (i.e. Apple). They have done that for Cuba, so why not for a company , country I mean, that "supports terrorism".
Re:Apple Encryption Engineers, If Ordered to Unlock iPhone, ... by walrus01 on Thursday March 17, 2016 @10:12PM (#11309382)