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Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by ceejayoz on Thursday March 17, 2016 @03:47PM (#11307029)
A quick skim of the article shows more than just honesty.

He's telling folks outside the company that a) ULA is courting Aerojet Rocketdyne with little intention of actually going with them, b) a prominent Senator is biased against them and and c) the Pentagon skewed a competition in their favor.

As the article says:

> This is not something Air Force procurement officers want to see quoted in the next SpaceX lawsuit. Nor is it something that McCain was happy to hear. At a hearing this morning, he called for an investigation into the contract.

Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by simoncion on Thursday March 17, 2016 @05:32PM (#11307790)
> ULA is courting Aerojet Rocketdyne with little intention of actually going with them

This is likely because of a requirement that ULA put out a bid to multiple candidates. This sort of thing often happens because of well-meaning rules that aim to prevent croneyism in subcontracts or procurement. It's unsurprising, and -assuming that there's no other US supplier that is willing to build the engines for ULA- is not at all controversial.

However, such rules can be a pain in the ass when you honestly know that there's only one entity in the world who can do the entirety of the thing that you need to get done. If you're really unlucky, your procurement rules will be written so that some bozo can come along, promise everything on your requirements list at a lower price than the only guy who can actually do the job, win the contract, and string you along for aeons while they attempt to build the capabilities that they promised they could supply, and that the other guy already had ready to go.

Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by ceejayoz on Thursday March 17, 2016 @05:40PM (#11307852)
Sure, but you still don't want Blue Origin coming into cost negotiations with a print-out of a ULA executive saying it's a done deal because there are no realistic second options.
Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by simoncion on Thursday March 17, 2016 @07:10PM (#11308406)
Oh, agreed.

I'm just putting the situation into perspective for the folks who might hold an opinion like "That's such a terrible thing for ULA to be doing! Why are they wasting the time and money of Aerojet if they seriously expect that Aerojet won't be able to provide the thing that they need?".

Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by marincounty on Thursday March 17, 2016 @04:05PM (#11307152)
He went too far, but it's most likely the truth.

Do I fell sorry for his firing--no.

Would I tape this speach, and put it online--no.

Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by ceejayoz on Thursday March 17, 2016 @04:29PM (#11307347)
There are plenty of truths that aren't ours to share. I'm not allowed to post to Twitter my employer's revenue numbers, even though I could easily calculate them. It'd be truthful, but they'd be well within their rights to fire me.

I don't have any issue with taping and releasing a speech during a class at a publicly funded university.

Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by keithpeter on Thursday March 17, 2016 @04:12PM (#11307212)
"Would I tape this [speech], and put it online--no."

Anyone got anything on the motivation for the taping/putting on-line?

Lutz? Angry at the language? Supporting one of the other stakeholders? Some concept of investigative journalism?

Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by foota on Thursday March 17, 2016 @04:40PM (#11307415)
My guess would be the students just didn't think of the ramifications.
Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by PhasmaFelis on Thursday March 17, 2016 @06:48PM (#11308260)
You must have a very low opinion of the students.

People don't like assholes, which is why smart assholes take care not to act like assholes. When you're this obvious about it, no one can fail to notice what an asshole you are. When you piss someone off and simultaneously hand them a way to hurt you, you shouldn't be surprised when they take it.

Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by bsder on Thursday March 17, 2016 @09:43PM (#11309236)
> You must have a very low opinion of the students.

My opinion is lower than that. Generation Text posts everything as a reflex without much thought.

Only later when things happen like the cops showing up at their doorstep do they realize that maybe that isn't such a great idea.

Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by ceejayoz on Thursday March 17, 2016 @05:04PM (#11307602)
Why would this be on the students?
Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by foota on Thursday March 17, 2016 @06:35PM (#11308186)
For both the students and the exec, sometimes you have to use common sense. This doesn't sound like the kind of thing you'd post publicly.
Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by abraae on Thursday March 17, 2016 @07:40PM (#11308597)
For many of these students (like many HN-ers posting here), this behind-the-scenes expose would have been eye-opening - a great learning moment. Just the sort of thing a student would post.
Re:Recording of aerospace executive's speech leads to his re... by foota on Thursday March 17, 2016 @09:22PM (#11309158)
I'm a student. While I do think this would be the thing that I would tell my friends about, I wouldn't post it publicly. When someone speaks candidly to me I see it as something that's not to be shared other than in confidence.