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Re:What we learned in Seoul with AlphaGo by chillacy on Wednesday March 16, 2016 @09:02PM (#11301924)
> more practical and impressive computer science achievements

If we came out with a polynomial time solution for the graph coloring problem, you could use that same logic to say "it's just labeling colors, what's the big deal?"

Re:What we learned in Seoul with AlphaGo by colllectorof on Wednesday March 16, 2016 @09:12PM (#11301961)
Graph coloring problem is generic and is guaranteed to be useful in a myriad obvious applications. Plus, "polynomial time" is a specific criteria, whereas "somewhat better than a human champion" is an arbitrary milestone.

Besides, people who make advances in abstract problems like that do not release PR statements and get 1/1000th of the hype and coverage AlphaGo received recently.

Re:What we learned in Seoul with AlphaGo by hluska on Thursday March 17, 2016 @01:07AM (#11302691)
I'm not trying to troll you here, but have you ever actually played Go?? Go is so complex that the word 'complex' doesn't even begin to cover it. It's a game that requires equal parts creativity and logic. The sheer number of options absolutely dwarf anything else out there.

This achievement will be useful in a myriad of obvious applications. And, it is one of the greatest engineering feats that I have been alive to witness.

Re:What we learned in Seoul with AlphaGo by colllectorof on Thursday March 17, 2016 @07:32PM (#11308547)
I have played Go and I understand that it is a complex and nuanced game. However, I also understand that it's a game very heavily based on patterns and pattern-matching.

Have you read the research paper and seen how much of AlphaGo's architecture was designed around the specifics of Go gameplay? (Including a set of handcrafted Go-specific training features.)

Re:What we learned in Seoul with AlphaGo by abecedarius on Thursday March 17, 2016 @02:23AM (#11302857)
NxN Go is PSPACE-complete.[1] That's an even bigger deal than NP-complete.

[1] According to some comment in /r/MachineLearning the other day. I haven't looked into it myself.

Re:What we learned in Seoul with AlphaGo by jeeyoungk on Thursday March 17, 2016 @05:05AM (#11303278)
That is with some bounds applied to it - if we allow unbounded games (ko, superko, etc) then it is EXPTIME-complete.
Re:What we learned in Seoul with AlphaGo by jxy on Thursday March 17, 2016 @06:12PM (#11308038)
Re:What we learned in Seoul with AlphaGo by euyyn on Thursday March 17, 2016 @02:32PM (#11306485)
To be fair, AlphaGo can only play 19x19 Go. It's unrelated to solving NxN Go.