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Re:Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windo... by ourmandave on Monday March 14, 2016 @06:04PM (#11285913)
I just got upgraded Saturday and the EULA specifically says that you can't bring a class action lawsuit against them. They want you to try arbitration for 60 days and if that doesn't work then you can try small claims. Yeah, sure.

Anyway I had two problems afterwards.

It logged me into a TEMP account so no config changes were saved and my files appeared to be all missing. They weren't, it just the shortcuts all point to the C:\users\TEMP\ directories. There's a few fixes for that one. Mine was checking the box that stopped OneNote from auto loading at start up.

After a reboot the start menu went away. The logo button is there but the menu doesn't come up. I found a site with a few fixed and tried them all in succession. I don't know which one solved it because I only rebooted after doing all of them.

So now I have 30 days to downgrade to Win 7 or forever hold my peace.

<backspaced off rant here />

Re:Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windo... by chris_wot on Monday March 14, 2016 @08:29PM (#11286643)
> the EULA specifically says that you can't bring a class action lawsuit against them

Yeah, best of luck to them with this. It's not possible for them to put a condition into their EULA negating all legal rights. Imagine a completely ludicrous scenario: a Microsoft executive decides that they install an update that wipes your computer if it detects your version of Windows isn't licensed, and then another update accidentally causes your license to be invalidated. Then millions of computers get wiped. You think that licensing term is going to protect them from a class action? Think again.

Re:Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windo... by DasIch on Monday March 14, 2016 @06:39PM (#11286078)
EULAs aren't legally binding in some countries because they're not disclosed before the sale. So this might protect them in the US but I could imagine it becoming a problem in other countries still.
Re:Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windo... by ubernostrum on Monday March 14, 2016 @06:57PM (#11286183)
I know clickwrap EULAs have been contentious, but can a EULA for something you didn't even ask for and didn't want in the first place be forced on you against your will?
Re:Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windo... by ourmandave on Monday March 14, 2016 @07:18PM (#11286311)
I had the option to not accept the EULA. In that case I was then free to not install Windows 10 despite it "prepping my system for the update" for an hour.

I figured any attempt at a roll back at that point would have been worse than just proceeding. =(

Re:Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windo... by chris_wot on Monday March 14, 2016 @08:37PM (#11286677)
That's interesting. If the OS upgrades to Windows 10, does it prompt you to accept a new EULA after upgrading? If so, what does it do if you don't accept the new terms? And how can they ask you to accept terms AFTER upgrading?
Re:Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windo... by cesarb on Monday March 14, 2016 @09:45PM (#11286923)
The comments at https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/49eahx/computer_up... say that, if you decline the EULA after installing, it rollbacks to the previously installed version.
Re:Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windo... by chris_wot on Tuesday March 15, 2016 @12:43AM (#11287501)
Bloody hell. And this rollback appears to be less than reliable.

Why not ask for the acceptance and then upgrade?

Do we know what data is lost when a rollback occurs?

Re:Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windo... by nness on Monday March 14, 2016 @09:42PM (#11286913)
I believe this stuff is contained in the EULA you've already agreed to, not the new EULA.