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Re:UK surveillance powers bill could force startups to bake ... by pjc50 on Friday March 11, 2016 @02:02PM (#11268725)
the discussion has just started

I'm afraid it's been going on for decades: https://www.epic.org/crypto/clipper/

And that's partly why the mistrust exists. Law enforcement agencies are not given the benefit of the doubt on this because of previous abuses. There's a history here which is too long to #include every time the subject comes up.

Deciding whether a non-controllable medium of remote communication should exist, and who may use it, is a social and political question

"Controllable" is a word shift from "secret", and that's what the US 1st Amendment guarantees: the existence of non-controllable means of remote communication. After all, one of the founding heroes of the US was a ""terrorist"" who brought messages to the other members of his anti-government cell.

The UK situation is much worse, and a full discussion would have to involve the abuses of the last generation of antiterrorist police and military action in Northern Ireland.

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