Re:Intermittent Fasting Is Gaining Acceptance
by miseg on Wednesday March 09, 2016 @04:17AM
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I do IF, with milk in my tea and coffee before lunch, and then break the fast at lunch time.
I think I better watch my milk input, particularly on non-lifting days (I'm a real amateur lifting), since it's probably bringing me out of "fasted" state according to my body. I drink a five cups of tea/coffee by lunch time.
Re:Intermittent Fasting Is Gaining Acceptance
by rsync on Wednesday March 09, 2016 @11:59AM
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In response to both of you, I really don't think that you have "fasted" in a particular period if you are consuming calories at all.
You're certainly restricting calories and I'm sure it's a positive step, healthwise, etc., but ...
If we have a goal of depleting the energy stores in our liver, you're interrupting (and perhaps) sabotaging that.
OR, if we are trying to restrict calories into a certain time window, you've opened up that window with the butter and the milk. You're no longer in the 16, you're in the 8 (so to speak).
Re:Intermittent Fasting Is Gaining Acceptance
by doublerebel on Wednesday March 09, 2016 @01:08PM
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It is a common misconception that any calories >0 break the fast. However, all IF coaches agree that the threshold for most people is around 50 calories [1]. Knowing this, I only take a splash of cream or milk in my coffee.
Heavy olympic lifting hasn't been a problem but I only lift on high calorie days, and not more than 4 times a week. If you are into the Leangains flavor of IF, lifting is the recommended way to do IF. I find that in my and my gfs case, lifting has been far more effective than cardio.
I grew up with a mother as an aerobics instructor and I live in a very active Seattle, so I've seen and tried all number of diets and workout regimens. With IF I have the most energy and the fastest results. It's also reasonably easy to work into real life situations (travel, dinners at friends' houses, etc.).
I will say that using a calorie and exercise counter is very very helpful when starting or resuming IF. Otherwise it is far too easy to mis-estimate calories in or out. I use Fatsecret app. And to calculate target calorie in/out, there is a great tool here at 1percentedge [1]. (Unfortunately it's in Flash, contacting the author to port to a mobile app is on my long list...)
[1]: http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/