Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by TazeTSchnitzel on Sunday March 06, 2016 @02:32PM
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Beware that VMs are not necessarily secure. They can be escaped!
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Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by nikanj on Sunday March 06, 2016 @02:46PM
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This argument is similar to "a condom can always break". Technically you are correct, but I'd still use one.
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by conradev on Sunday March 06, 2016 @04:56PM
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Which is the entire premise behind Qubes: https://www.qubes-os.org
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by feld on Monday March 07, 2016 @09:42AM
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This argument is only similar if the condom is known to have huge design flaws
VMs have tons of well documented issues. If you want a smaller attack surface, try OS virtualization technologies (zones/jails)
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by lawnchair_larry on Monday March 07, 2016 @10:08AM
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This makes no sense. VMs are by far the most secure form of isolation. No one is going to get infected with malware that escapes VMs - it is far too valuable.
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by feld on Monday March 07, 2016 @10:19PM
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How can you honestly think VMs are the most secure form of isolation?
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by dave2000 on Sunday March 06, 2016 @02:39PM
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Sure, in theory. Are there any current exploits for VirtualBox?
The way I see it, they're more secure that running the same apps on bare metal. Ubuntu host running a Fedora VM; the latter (with Transmission etc) only running when I need the apps running - seems an almost entirely painless way of providing a lot of security.
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by nevir on Sunday March 06, 2016 @02:49PM
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Unsure if there are any currently publicly known exploits, but it sure isn't unheard of for VirtualBox:
* http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/05/extremely-serious-vi...
* http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/495095
* https://www.cert.be/advisories/oracle-vm-virtualbox-two-priv...
* http://www.coresecurity.com/content/virtualbox-privilege-esc...
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by startling on Sunday March 06, 2016 @05:42PM
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"Requires a 0-day" is still a huge barrier. It's not 100% secure, sure, but it's an improvement.
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by nevir on Monday March 07, 2016 @12:26AM
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Yeah, not arguing that. Just don't treat it like a panacea
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by brians on Monday March 07, 2016 @12:04AM
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Yes! Some reliable ways to extract an RSA key, and some less reliable ways to swap two cache lines. Virtualization on x86 is a helpful tool for configuration management, but should not be mistaken for a security feature.
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by digi_owl on Sunday March 06, 2016 @02:41PM
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More secure than without though.
Lets try to avoid treating security as something binary.
Re:Transmission BitTorrent app contained malware
by b1460151 on Monday March 07, 2016 @06:46AM
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Yes but if you run a compromised App in VM A and have your sensitive data in VM B then they have to break out of the VM A and then break into VM B. It's no longer worth the effort. There are often easier ways like phising.