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Re:Why I Left Oracle – A Confession by pron on Saturday March 05, 2016 @05:48PM (#11231464)
> Because Oracle screwed it up.

I am quite involved in the Java community and I don't see it. How did Oracle screw it up?

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Re:Why I Left Oracle – A Confession by pron on Sunday March 06, 2016 @02:50PM (#11235239)
I am very involved, and I've seen plenty of good work, from Java 8, through the upcoming Valhalla and Panama, and to the amazing work on Graal, which is probably the biggest breakthrough in compiler technology in the past decade. Doug Lea is still working as tirelessly as ever on java.util.concurrent, and while letting the evangelists go was bad PR, it really changed little wrt to technology investment. There have been some missteps and setbacks, but while making some noise, they have been few. Don't forget that Java is huge; probably the largest standardized language ecosystem ever, and not all of its many corners can always be covered well. And when an ecosystem is nearly ten million users strong, even one percent of disappointed users is larger than most other languages' entire ecosystem.
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Re:Why I Left Oracle – A Confession by henk53 on Sunday March 06, 2016 @05:31PM (#11235892)
Some resources have been taking away from Valhalla and Panama, and Java 9 has been delayed.

But that is NOT what TFA is about. That is about Java EE, which Oracle suddenly stopped dedicating resources to, but in a completely silent way.

Java SE may be next. We don't know that yet. There are some signs, but they don't matter at the moment. What matters at the moment is Java EE.

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Re:Why I Left Oracle – A Confession by coldtea on Monday March 07, 2016 @05:28AM (#11238107)
Plus, things like Desktop Java were ignored, and applets silently killed (even if it was their time, this was caused by years of neglect and security issues, and it screwed up people depending on them).
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Re:Why I Left Oracle – A Confession by pron on Tuesday March 08, 2016 @04:26AM (#11244293)
That is all hardly Oracle's fault.
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Re:Why I Left Oracle – A Confession by pjmlp on Sunday March 06, 2016 @03:01AM (#11232892)
Support for mobile OSes.

You could have had JIT/AOT for Windows Phone and AOT compiler for iOS, but they never cared.

Now C++ and C# reign as the languages to go for portable mobile native apps.

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Re:Why I Left Oracle – A Confession by pron on Monday March 07, 2016 @06:38AM (#11238339)
This may well have been a mistake, but it is being addressed now, though probably not aggressively enough. Also, depending on how Google integrates OpenJDK into Android, we may soon have Java (real Java, that is) on the world's leading mobile platform.
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Re:Why I Left Oracle – A Confession by pjmlp on Monday March 07, 2016 @04:44PM (#11241968)
So far Google has been integrating OpenJDK 7, still curious to see if they say anything at Google IO.

How is it being addressed?

You mean the communication to leave to the community the porting of OpenJDK to mobile platforms? Or having the RoboVM guys at JavaONE, but giving them zero support other than publicity?

I am not confident that Google will move away from their fork, most likely they will adopt something else, specially with ChromeOS and Android merging.

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Re:Why I Left Oracle – A Confession by pron on Wednesday March 09, 2016 @11:27AM (#11253846)
> How is it being addressed?

http://openjdk.java.net/projects/mobile/

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