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Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by grumpyfart on Friday February 12, 2010 @04:10PM (#1121772)
There is a high possibility that Google's server is 10 times more secure than any average Joe's mail server. Even more secure than a security expert's server as well: http://www.darknet.org.uk/2009/08/dan-kaminsky-kevin-mitnick...

Do you have time to manage and keep your server secure? Can you patch a new 0day in an hour, possibly not.

On the other hand when men-in-black asks to Google yes they might give it away, which is another story.

Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by isleyaardvark on Friday February 12, 2010 @08:18PM (#1122309)
I think fewer people are worried about their mail server being hacked as they are about Google deciding on their own initiative to release info willy-nilly, as they did with Buzz.
Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by jdietrich on Friday February 12, 2010 @04:39PM (#1121849)
Absolutely, I use Google for pretty much everything and trust them implicitly. I don't believe that Google will leak anything that matters and think that the whole buzz furore is nonsense whipped up by people who had assumed privacy where there was little reasonable expectation of it.

However, if, like the OP, you do not trust a major corporation with a near-immaculate record on data integrity and an industry-leading stance on LEA disclosure, why trust any corporation?

Hosting your own server is inherently risky, but it is a different sort of risk with different mitigations. As you allude to in your post, the question is whether you fear malicious individuals, the workings of the state or corporate incompetence.

Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by ams1 on Friday February 12, 2010 @09:31PM (#1122418)
your contact list doesn't matter? it was leaked via buzz.
Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by collint on Sunday February 14, 2010 @04:40AM (#1124349)
What exactly is the danger of people having my email address(substitute me with you if it helps)?
Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by chengas123 on Sunday February 14, 2010 @01:07PM (#1124949)
my contact list was not leaked. i think at most the list of people you were auto-following was made public if/when you created a public profile and did not set this information to private
Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by windsurfer on Friday February 12, 2010 @11:29PM (#1122543)
Google's server may be 10 times more secure, but it's probably targeted about 10000 times as much as my own server.
Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by grumpyfart on Saturday February 13, 2010 @06:24AM (#1122912)
Well even in that case attackers won't touch your data (since you aren't targeted), so you'll be still safe. If they are targeting you then it's the same thing.
Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by mey on Friday February 12, 2010 @04:18PM (#1121787)
In addition, I know of no company who provides better spam and malware filtering.
Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by copper on Monday February 15, 2010 @11:06PM (#1128284)
Postini did, but they were bought out by google :)