News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Nanex Gets $700k Whistleblower Award from SEC by jsprogrammer on Wednesday March 02, 2016 @05:19PM (#11213493)
The case we are talking about however, I believe, is where NYSE operates an apparently public market with delayed quotes for some players. Tptacek claims that my orders cannot even make it into the supposedly public market because someone will scoop up my order on the way, before it even reaches the delayed quote market and therefore, the market is not special because I cannot access it (which is disputable).
Re:Nanex Gets $700k Whistleblower Award from SEC by tptacek on Wednesday March 02, 2016 @06:10PM (#11213818)
Yes: if you, as an individual, place an order at an online brokerage, your order is most probably not going to make it to an exchange. It would be stupid to send it there, because wholesalers will give you better prices.

This is the case for retail orders, but not for trading firms. Prop trading firms don't tend to route their orders through wholesalers; they have deals with execution platforms (or implement their own) and route their orders to exchanges.

But there's a whole 'nother set of reasons why we're not especially concerned about competitions between prop trading firms on speed/latency/whatever: if they're impacted by HFT at all, they're competing in a zero-sum game to arb prices, and there's no moral reason why a slower trading firm is entitled to some equitable share of all the available profit from some arbitrage strategy.

Re:Nanex Gets $700k Whistleblower Award from SEC by zekevermillion on Wednesday March 02, 2016 @08:23PM (#11214413)
Tptacek seems quite convinced that the "tiny spread" pocketed by HFT arbitrageurs comes entirely out of the pocket of competing HFT shops and has no impact on the prices paid by other participants.