FBI’s Comey Concedes Mistake Was Made Over iPhone in San Bernardino Case

Re:FBI’s Comey Concedes Mistake Was Made Over iPhone in San ... by cynicalkane on Wednesday March 02, 2016 @01:23AM (#11208407)

The right to privacy stops when you put lead in a bunch of people. There isn't a textual right to privacy in the Constitution in the first place; it's a right that arises from the interpretation of other rights.

What's at stake here is the power of government to compel testimony. They already have the phone, but they lack the power to compel its unlocking.

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Re:FBI’s Comey Concedes Mistake Was Made Over iPhone in San ... by drjesusphd on Wednesday March 02, 2016 @03:27AM (#11208727)

> The right to privacy stops when you put lead in a bunch of people.

That's not how rights work.

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Re:FBI’s Comey Concedes Mistake Was Made Over iPhone in San ... by cynicalkane on Wednesday March 02, 2016 @10:05AM (#11210327)

Uh, in the case of search and seizure, it explicitly is. The Fourth Amendment provides a standard for searching the property of criminals. Such searches are carried out routinely with no issues. There are other standards for "violating" other rights to privacy also.

I'm not saying criminals don't deserve rights. In fact, what's at stake here is that the Fifth Amendment does protect a mass murderer from revealing his passcode, so I'm not sure what you and all these downvoters are going on about. If criminals didn't have rights there wouldn't be an issue here.

If the passcode on the phone were crackable, it would be absolutely 100% legal to search it. And that kind of thing happens routinely. The issue at stake is not searching the phone, but compelling Apple to help with the search.

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