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Re:Zenefits Scandal Highlights Perils of Hypergrowth at Star... by pron on Thursday February 18, 2016 @11:18AM (#11126798)
I think Uber is owned by someone much richer than any taxi company owner, and the difference is that the shady things in Uber's case are done not by the mistreated employees but by the owners themselves (often against their own employees), and they don't do it to earn a living. I am not saying taxi company owners are saints, but Uber is by no means better.

If you've seen the HBO series Deadwood (a masterpiece, BTW), I'd say we're replacing an Al Swearengen with a George Hearst. Both may be villains, but the scale makes all the difference...

Re:Zenefits Scandal Highlights Perils of Hypergrowth at Star... by pkaye on Thursday February 18, 2016 @12:15PM (#11127348)
I don't very much care for Uber. I don't want them to have a monopoly in the taxi market. Hopefully a more open taxi industry with competition allows for improved quality.
Re:Zenefits Scandal Highlights Perils of Hypergrowth at Star... by ameister14 on Thursday February 18, 2016 @06:46PM (#11130375)
Competition without regulation doesn't improve quality, historically it lowers it.
Re:Zenefits Scandal Highlights Perils of Hypergrowth at Star... by AJ007 on Thursday February 18, 2016 @11:44AM (#11127018)
If Uber ultimately goes public, then the owner will be society. The medallion owners largely were individuals who had the access to credit and leveraged in as the values rose.

There is a lot more transparency with Uber, however if they achieve a near total monopoly on transportation such as Google did for search, the end result from a consumer experience standpoint may end up the same, with different trade offs.

The alternate issue, the employees/drivers, won't matter in the long run because there won't be drivers whether it was Uber or medallion holders.

Re:Zenefits Scandal Highlights Perils of Hypergrowth at Star... by metaphorm on Thursday February 18, 2016 @11:58AM (#11127156)
> If Uber ultimately goes public, then the owner will be society

thats a ludicrous reductionism as to what "publicly traded" company actually means and it discredits the rest of otherwise reasonable argument to say this.

Re:Zenefits Scandal Highlights Perils of Hypergrowth at Star... by dragonwriter on Thursday February 18, 2016 @12:01PM (#11127202)
> If Uber ultimately goes public, then the owner will be society.

No, if Uber is ever nationalized, then the owner will be society.

If Uber merely goes public, then the owners will still be the stockholders, its just that it will be easier to trade in the stock.

Re:Zenefits Scandal Highlights Perils of Hypergrowth at Star... by AJ007 on Thursday February 18, 2016 @08:39PM (#11130922)
From failing operations in Venezuela to gigantic state operated industries in China, I see a lot of examples of nationalized & government operated companies where the end beneficiaries are the insiders who get to re-allocate wealth to themselves at the expense of the rest of their citizens.
Re:Zenefits Scandal Highlights Perils of Hypergrowth at Star... by pron on Thursday February 18, 2016 @11:52AM (#11127096)
> If Uber ultimately goes public, then the owner will be society.

You mean those in society with disposable income to invest (or a 401K). That's not quite the same as "society".

> The medallion owners largely were individuals who had the access to credit and leveraged in as the values rose.

Sure, they were small-business entrepreneurs. As I said, they are Swearengen to Uber's Hearst, but their immigrant employees certainly benefit from the regulation, too.

> The alternate issue, the employees/drivers, won't matter in the long run because there won't be drivers whether it was Uber or medallion holders.

Perhaps, but there will be other similar issues.

Re:Zenefits Scandal Highlights Perils of Hypergrowth at Star... by AJ007 on Thursday February 18, 2016 @08:44PM (#11130944)
Sovereign wealth funds, pension funds, both public and private, own immense quantities of stocks in publicly traded corporations. If the trend of give-everything-away philanthropy continues, even the most tightly controlled corporations should continue to spread out through society.
Re:Zenefits Scandal Highlights Perils of Hypergrowth at Star... by st3v3r on Thursday February 18, 2016 @02:10PM (#11128381)
If Uber goes public, nothing significant will change. The same creepy people will be in charge, the CEO will still be the same guy who's advocated breaking laws and sending PIs to stalk reporters.