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Re:If you're going to do good science, release the computer ... by lutorm on Tuesday February 09, 2010 @08:29AM (#1112116)
So would you rather people publish in "low-impact" journals and then leave science completely because they can't get a permanent job?

"Intellectually bankrupt" is a pretty strong term to use for people who work for a small fraction of the amount of money normally talked about on this site.

I'm not saying there aren't issues, but blaming the individuals who are trying to make a living by doing science isn't going to help. The success rate of getting permanent jobs in science might be higher than that of startups, but the "payoff" is a small fraction.

Re:If you're going to do good science, release the computer ... by DaniFong on Tuesday February 09, 2010 @05:31PM (#1113557)
I have not left science completely: I've made my own job. It is possible but it is only made harder because of the closed system.

There are many of us who've left academia and still do science. We're generally maligned, and removed from the ability to even participate in a discussion due to a variety of academic access restrictions, and why?

What's more, day by day people are showing how to achieve scientific credibility and influence through their blogs and paper hosting services like ArXiv or, as Michael Nielsen points out, open journals like PLoS Biology. The majority of scientists still bow to tenure pressure, and frankly I don't understand why. There are other opportunities if you want to gain status, and one doesn't even have to gain traditional academic status if one wants to do real science. There are other options.

Re:If you're going to do good science, release the computer ... by lutorm on Thursday February 11, 2010 @12:28PM (#1118119)
Which academic access restrictions are you talking about? I know people who have started independent "institutes" but the only reason you need to do so is to receive federal funding. It's true that if you brand yourself as an "independent researcher", people might be inclined to think you are a crackpot, but publishing real papers should take care of that.

I'm not sure blogs are a relevant source for scientific studies though. Not necessarily because I think peer review is the greatest system, but having your paper published in an actual journal (open journals are fine) at least means you managed to convince a few other people that it's worth looking at the paper.