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Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by welder on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:16PM (#11106459)
> every H1-B is taking a job from a US citizen

Do US Citizens deserve a job more than a non-citizen? Get off your high horse and see you are no more different than other people around the world!

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by mrrrgn on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:39PM (#11106600)
Globalism is a political philosophy, not a moral imperative. Here in our country we [citizens] get first dibs on jobs. Our land, our laws. We have every right to enforce that. If the market punishes us for it perhaps we'll change.
Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by throwaway_exer on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:38PM (#11106586)
Yes, US citizens deserve first crack at US jobs. No other country allows mass immigration of professional jobs - because their citizens wouldn't tolerate it.
Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by skylan_q on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:31PM (#11106542)
Do US Citizens deserve a job more than a non-citizen? The original article stated that the prof. didn't understand why american politicians were trying to get more STEM-educated/skilled people into the US.

1) Rubio is bought by Microsoft. They're his biggest donor. (or 2nd biggest depending on how you dice the numbers) MS' profit margins would benefit from driving wages down. 2) The job of the politicians of the United States is to make life better for American citizens, not people abroad.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by davidw on Monday February 15, 2016 @06:25PM (#11106847)
Importing highly skilled, hard working people most certainly does make our lives better.
Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by SudoNhim on Monday February 15, 2016 @07:19PM (#11107054)
It goes both ways though. I feel pretty terrible about finishing my government sponsored education in New Zealand then ditching for better prospects here in the US. Where the size of the tech sector is limited by the number of engineers, every engineer lost to an H1B is lost exports, lost jobs, lost taxes....
Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by davidw on Monday February 15, 2016 @07:30PM (#11107101)
Plenty of people go off to work somewhere else and then return home with a pile of money and skills. So it's not like you get on a boat, never to see home again.

The economies of some countries (poorer ones) benefit greatly from remittances.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by levelist_com on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:28PM (#11106524)
In America? Yes. Globally, absolutely not.
Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by pound on Monday February 15, 2016 @06:19PM (#11106816)
in US? yes.

when we will get to the "citizen of the world" equality it would be another issue. Right now we have distinct countries with their own citizens and their own support/taxes/infrastructure serving them and that's their own issues to work on.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by troebr on Monday February 15, 2016 @06:33PM (#11106889)
At the same time, the US getting educated and skilled workers that it never had to pay a dime for to educate. If you look at European countries, a lot of them are trying hard to prevent their skilled workers from leaving for the US.

If anything, these people are coming, paying high taxes whilst receiving only a tiny fraction of the benefits (no medicare, no unemployment, no education cost) etc. They may or may not be driving salaries down (pretty sure if the law was enforced it wouldn't be the case), but you can't ignore the rest.

There's also a lot of statistics on immigrants and children of immigrants founding a disproportionate amount of companies compared to US natives.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by ap3 on Monday February 15, 2016 @11:59PM (#11107973)
There will still be immigrants without H1b - but H1b specifically targets tech employees with the fallacy that there are not enough tech workers
Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by pound on Tuesday February 16, 2016 @01:52PM (#11112186)
saving money on their education cost and getting taxes paid is fine, sure. in the same time you have a local citizen who is out of job. how much money will be spent on him/her (in)directly? from unemployment benefits at first to potential disability eventually, to cover expenses with healthcare or any other payments that would be defaulted.
Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by CoryAmber on Monday February 15, 2016 @07:47PM (#11107192)
What citizenry anywhere would say, "You, you over there. Disney programmer. Sorry, gotta put you, the wife and the kids on food stamps. Mortgage? Yea, well just leave keys on the kitchen table. Bank will take care of it. Oh, that goes for the rest of you as well. Yea, the whole department."

What citizenry anywhere would not prioritize their fellow citizens to a decent job, wage and life?

To answer your question, yea, yea they do.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by CoryAmber on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:41PM (#11106609)
You have changed the topic of discussion. I have not claimed some difference from other people or offered an opinion on deservedness, entitlement or anything. I just stated that (modulo special cases, point exceptions) that the bulk of H1-Bs occupy a position that could and would be filled by a US citizen.