Re:Why GNU Emacs?
by pjmlp on Sunday February 14, 2016 @05:53PM
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Many on UNIX seem to keep living as if their quad-core with 16GB is actually a better PDP-11, hence starving innovation.
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Well, if those quad-cores and 16GB of RAM would actually be put to good use in the "modern"/"hot" IDE world, we could talk. If anything is starving out innovation, it's sticking to CUA, mouse-driven development and rewriting nano in JavaScript...
When those IDEs are able to achieve what was possible in Xerox PARC workstations, as demoed occasionally by Bret Victor, then we can talk about moving forward.
PDP-11 command line experience is not even there.
> PDP-11 command line experience is not even there.
Are you saying the modern unix command line is not as good/better than the "PDP-11 command line experience"?
Also, which PDP-11 command line? RSTS? RT11? Unix? or maybe that awesome front panel where you had to manually input your boot loader in binary every time you started the machine?
> Are you saying the modern unix command line is not as good/better than the "PDP-11 command line experience"?
No, I am saying that it isn't even close to the Xerox PARC REPL experience from Interlisp-D, Mesa/Cedar and Smalltalk environments.
> Also, which PDP-11 command line? RSTS? RT11? Unix? or maybe that awesome front panel where you had to manually input your boot loader in binary every time you started the machine?
The VT-100 interface some people seem to keep living on.
Why have my IDE or developer tools take up all that? Instead, I like to save it to run a 4-node Kubernetes cluster running 8+ Docker containers to have a self contained distributed application locally during development (hey, it works on the airplane too when totally disconnected from a network).
8 Docker containers isn't really saying much. I'm running 20 on my cheap VPS right now. They're just processes...