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Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by quietplatypus on Sunday February 14, 2016 @01:41PM (#11099384)
1. It's good that such boring, backbreaking labor is being automated away.

2. It's bad that we're still in the middle ages when it comes to this thing where if you don't slave yourself enough to something, you starve because no money.

Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by crapolasplatter on Sunday February 14, 2016 @01:55PM (#11099449)
Well said. Too bad we didn't have an Oligarch as this could be a great thing for Humanity.

If robots took over all the jobs that nobody wants to do and people only did the things they loved whether its sitting on their arse or becoming doctors we might just evolve as a civilization to the next level. I think this is also key to becoming a monetary-less society.

Obviously the trick and hard part will be to still get people interested and motivated to become doctors and engineers,etc ..

I personally love what I do as an engineer and could see myself doing even more engineering tasks if resources wasn't a constraint.

Personally I love problem solving and could not handle sitting on my arse all day long, and I don't think I'm one bit unique in this mentality.

Will it happen ? I doubt any time within the next century if ever.

However, I think to evolve as humanity we need to change the system we have today. Currently its more beneficial to hide information than to share it because of monetary gains.

Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by quietplatypus on Sunday February 14, 2016 @09:48PM (#11101244)
Yeah, I'm an engineer now and if we were post-money I honestly would still be an engineer, because I take pleasure from finding out how things work and making new things that work. I think there are a lot of us like this.

No one really wants to sit on their ass all day, that's just something that's made up by rich people to stress us out so we continue working like dogs for them instead of on our real projects.

If you sat me down in front of the TV with no responsibilities forever everything provided I probably wouldn't last three days.

Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by dpeterson on Sunday February 14, 2016 @01:56PM (#11099457)
Yeah, reality sucks doesn't it? For those infinite things we still need people to do, we can't just have some people do all the work while others get to sit around and enjoy.
Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by crapolasplatter on Sunday February 14, 2016 @02:02PM (#11099485)
It doesn't suck but it could be better for a lot of people.

Somehow I don't think that m-f 40+ hour work week is the most relevant thing about our live once we die.Yet its the most time consuming part of it.

Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by dpeterson on Sunday February 14, 2016 @02:10PM (#11099525)
Hmm, that's why I have spent every second outside work and my family working my ass off on a startup on the minute chance I create something of enough value that will free me from my m-f 40+. Huge motivator for me. Take that motivator away and I doubt you see nearly the # of people working hard to create value. I believe that's why socialism fails.. Every... Single... Time. But hey, we can do it better right?
Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by dota_fanatic on Sunday February 14, 2016 @02:36PM (#11099626)
Don't you find it alarming that the only motivation you have to work is so that you can afford to not have to work m-f 40+? What are you going to do if you fail to 'create value' (read: create something that is successfully monetized) and you're looking back on years of your life that you didn't spend more w/ yourself, family, and friends in your little free time, instead giving yourself for the success of a startup? How will you feel, seeing others do little and earn hordes of cash due to being on the right side of automation or being in the 'right' networks?

Wouldn't you prefer to be free to work for things that you think are valuable... not in your free time, y'know, the time that should be for yourself and the things you love?

What's up with all these weird open source folk, working hard to create value and giving it away for free, uplifting for all? I hear this linux thing is pretty cool. It's almost like we can capture productivity in code and then copy it endlessly for practically free and everyone benefits. How are these people motivated?!

Maybe we should pursue this cooperation thing... who am I kidding. It fails every. single. time.! Right?

Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by quietplatypus on Sunday February 14, 2016 @09:34PM (#11101204)
Pretty much this, and I argue that it is because of motivations like his that we end up with companies purely meant to flout regulations to make money for themselves, like Zenefits, than anything that is of real value.
Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by sdfin on Sunday February 14, 2016 @02:45PM (#11099664)
What is 'value'? Escaping the rat race can be a great motivator, but I think there are many other valuable motivating facts of life that can successfully motivate people. E.g.: curing sicknesses, understanding nature and the universe, overcome obstacles to human well being... Why do you think that people like Bill Gates keep working, without the need of doing m-f 40+ ?

You seem to be justifing the concentration of capital and power in a few hands in order to 'motivate' the rest of the population.

Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by quietplatypus on Sunday February 14, 2016 @09:57PM (#11101272)
So you only work on things purely under threats and external pressure? Let's hope no one ever has to work with you.

Granted, no one really does anything without considering the possibility of that thing causing them to go six feet under, but you've stated that the only motivation to do anything ever, to decrease the local entropy around yourself even one bit, is under the threat of death.

Are you not aware how unhealthy, conformist, tool-like of a life-philosophy this is?

(Also, you don't need to exactly buy into all this startup cult shit and work your ass off from the beginning, just do anything that makes you more money than you put in. I know this is obvious but judging from most people like you, you need that dose of reality)

Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by vacri on Sunday February 14, 2016 @03:44PM (#11099910)
> I believe that's why socialism fails.. Every... Single... Time.

Sweden is doing fine. Australia is doing fine. Those two countries are generally in the top 5 of any quality-of-life measure you care to name. The UK is mostly doing fine.

Socialism is not communism.

Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by unclebucknasty on Sunday February 14, 2016 @04:02PM (#11099991)
The US is doing fine too. Mostly.
Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by quietplatypus on Sunday February 14, 2016 @09:39PM (#11101218)
Nice cult-like thinking there buddy. Hope your startup works out! I too wish I could enslave myself to something harder than most others (and throw a bunch of my employees under the bus in the process, making it a net loss), obviously the only way forward is back. I'm just a little bit more in touch with this annoying 'reality' thing :)
Re:Jobs that are disappearing thanks to robots by sbov on Sunday February 14, 2016 @02:05PM (#11099495)
> need

You probably have a different definition of need than I do. Want != need.