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Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by pyre on Monday February 08, 2016 @06:19PM (#11061727)
I don't have any experience developing iOS or Cocoa applications, but I imagine that you need to use at least some of the XCode toolchain to make those things happen.
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Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by United857 on Monday February 08, 2016 @06:26PM (#11061777)
You need the compilers/toolchain from Xcode, but there are third-party build tools, such as e.g. Buck[1] that combined with an decent editor, let you pretty much avoid the Xcode GUI for a lot of the development cycle.

[1]https://buckbuild.com/

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Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by bryanrasmussen on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @08:32AM (#11065103)
you said "a lot of the development cycle", as someone who hates Xcode I worry that won't be enough (not making anything requiring compilation on mac at moment, so not particularly worried)
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Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by United857 on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @03:14PM (#11075621)
If you don't use Interface Builder, you can actually avoid Xcode completely.
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