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Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by yaakov34 on Saturday February 06, 2016 @02:43PM (#11049393)
Another quote is "it is very hard to even interview people who are 'white'". This is absurd and disgusting.

I haven't lived in the US for a while, but lately, I keep hearing all these expressions of straight up racial hatred of white people, all the way up to taking pleasure in white people "dying off" and so on. This kind of thing can't end well and needs to be stopped.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by ronnier on Saturday February 06, 2016 @02:54PM (#11049465)
To even express that it's absurd will likely brand you as a racist. What in the fuck is happening?
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by tomschlick on Saturday February 06, 2016 @02:57PM (#11049480)
Tumblr is leaking.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by honestcoyote on Saturday February 06, 2016 @03:17PM (#11049609)
Apparently Reddit is leaking. Tumblr: the scapegoat for everything they don't like.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by vidarh on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:08PM (#11049871)
As a white middle-aged male, Tumblr is the only place I've experienced what it is like to be on the receiving end of racism. It's quite fascinating to see just how vile some of it gets. Of course it is only fascinating to me because I can trivially withdraw from it and not be particularly affected.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by pkinsky on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:24PM (#11049948)
It's not always fun and games: I'm Assyrian (a middle eastern, ethnically Christian ethnicity). When the first news reports of ISIS ethnically cleansing Assyrians in areas under their control came out, prominent members of social justice tumblr started joking about it being 'karma' because white-passing Christian-ish people were on the receiving end of genocide.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by dracht on Saturday February 06, 2016 @08:10PM (#11050986)
Very progressive indeed. These kinds of expressions show their veil is thin and their agenda nefarious.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by pkinsky on Saturday February 06, 2016 @09:42PM (#11051290)
Personally I think it's just a consequence of overly simple models of the world, not something more nefarious.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by honestcoyote on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:23PM (#11049945)
My point about Tumblr is that it's a huge site containing a lot of blogs. Seems like half (or over half) is porn. Most of the other half seems dedicated to rabid fanbases of various bits of pop culture. There's some politics like everywhere else on the net, but I have no idea why so many people here, including my downvoters, think it's this despicable bastion of frothy far leftism when that's only a small part of it. Hell, there's a dedicated base of white power blogging on Tumblr but no one ever mentions that.

It's like saying Reddit is nothing but Red Pill / MRA / gamergate types, or HN is nothing more than clueless Valley types. Or that Twitter is nothing but people sending each other 140 character descriptions of lunch. I really hate lazy stereotypes of complex interactions, especially on a place like HN where people should be "native" enough to digital culture to know better.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by derefr on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:20PM (#11050223)
It's the social "flows" of the sites that differentiate them. On Reddit, you subscribe to a number of communities, and then you only see content that a bunch of people agree fits those communities' standards. On Tumblr, you subscribe to a bunch of individuals' blogs, where those bloggers all have 1. a very simple/encouraged inbuilt mechanism for sharing things they see from their own subscriptions onto their own blog, and 2. a culture of "signal-boosting"—a term loosely meaning "passing along chain letters", or more generally, sharing something they wouldn't have posted for its own sake, with an audience that didn't sign up for such content, because "it's important that this spread until it reaches the people who are affected by it." As if it were a local weather emergency or an amber alert or something.

The combined result is that, on Tumblr, you'll subscribe to people for one thing, and then inevitably they'll "signal-boost" other things into your feed that you didn't sign up for. The most often "signal-boosted" thing is Social Justice discourse. This is why people get the impression Tumblr is a Social Justice website: if you subscribe to blogs about porn, cats, and tech, you'll end up with a dashboard containing porn, cats, tech, and "signal-boosted" Social Justice.

Personally, my problem isn't with Social Justice, but with "signal-boosting" itself. I (very carefully) use Tumblr, and enjoy doing so, but only by strictly following a policy of unsubscribing from any blog that "signal-boosts" anything. I think this means that I end up following only blogs that are completely disconnected from Tumblr's social graph, though, so I don't know how precisely I can be said to be "using Tumblr" at this point, rather than just being subscribed to some blogs that happen to be hosted there.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by hartpuff on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:48PM (#11050093)
> I have no idea why so many people here, including my downvoters, think it's this despicable bastion of frothy far leftism when that's only a small part of it.

I have no idea how you know what your downvoters think about Tumblr.

> It's like saying Reddit is nothing but Red Pill / MRA / gamergate types [...] I really hate lazy stereotypes

Who is the "they" in your post then, below, if not a generalised "Reddit" of nothing but Red Pill / MRA / gamergate types?

     "Reddit is leaking. Tumblr: the scapegoat for everything they don't like."
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by honestcoyote on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:13PM (#11050193)
>I have no idea how you know what your downvoters think about Tumblr.

Because Tumblr is brought up here and on Reddit frequently as this hellhole of idiotic far leftist thought. All I can think is: "have you actually looked at Tumblr beyond following some link at /r/tumblrinaction?" because there's so, so much more than that.

>Reddit is leaking...

Well, one thing you can count on from Reddit (or at least the vocal people in the defaults and conservative subs) is a fear and loathing of Tumblr, as well as considering SRS to be the root of all evil. Any time someone wants to panic about the threat of "SJWs", Tumblr is not far behind in the fear factor.

Hence, "reddit is leaking.." which was a joking way of referring to "tumblr is leaking".

But I still defend Reddit to my friends who are dismissive of it. Reddit contains a lot more than the awful stuff it's well known for. The defaults might be a hive of scum and villainy but there's a ton of great stuff in the smaller subs.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by afutd on Saturday February 06, 2016 @06:16PM (#11050495)
It's both or neither depending on how you want to look at it. The problem isn't any website or subculture, the problem is the entire overarching culture being created by digital natives that are coming into their own.

Internet induced sociopathy has infected an entire generation. No conversation is ever a conservation, everything is a performance for the benefit of third parties. Even face to face every conversion is haunted by what will this sound like when it is posted online. No one deserves the benefit of the doubt because they aren't real people, just words on a screen.

It's the so-called SJWs and the alt-right. It's GG and anti-GG. It's facebook and tumblr and twitter and reddit and lord knows 4chan.

It's sick, it's no ones fault, it's probably unfixable and that's heartbreaking.

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Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by yulaow on Saturday February 06, 2016 @03:02PM (#11049508)
Just to confirm this, I read a lot of time about black/asian people attacking those of the same ethnicity who don't agree on "white patriarchy" as being "just white inside!".

I even read of people claiming they are trans-black because they inside them feel black (and I am quoting literally) and so other people must see them that way.

You find this on tumblr, on pseudo-feminism propaganda sites, etc... a lot of this is collected in the subreddit reddit.com/r/tumblrinaction

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by u320 on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:06PM (#11049866)
> I even read of people claiming they are trans-black because they inside them feel black (and I am quoting literally) and so other people must see them that way.

Wouldn't that constitute cultural appropriation?

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by yaakov34 on Saturday February 06, 2016 @03:07PM (#11049546)
Ideological intolerance is part of it, but it's clearly not the only part, given that the very first point in her slide is "this is not work for white folks to lead", i.e. she doesn't want white allies. I don't see how much more explicit this lady can make the fact that she hates white people as such.

As for German or Russian philosophers - that seems far fetched. This is an American phenomenon, and in its explicit and mainstream form, it is a fairly recent one.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by jacalata on Saturday February 06, 2016 @03:36PM (#11049701)
What, you can't even picture a white person being an ally if it's not as the leader of the group?
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by yaakov34 on Saturday February 06, 2016 @06:40PM (#11050624)
I can't picture a white person being an ally if white people are explicitly excluded from leadership.

BTW, do you want to get started on explaining away "we can't teach white male managers empathy or compassion"?

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by lerpa on Saturday February 06, 2016 @10:26PM (#11051452)
If you read Marcuse, specially his work on "repressive tolerance" you'll see this bs borrows heavily from that kind of pseudo-intellectualism.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by ceejayoz on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:06PM (#11049863)
> "this is not work for white folks to lead", i.e. she doesn't want white allies

Not wanting to be an ally unless you're allowed to be in charge is a pretty perfect illustration of why the slide exists.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by pkinsky on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:25PM (#11049957)
It's a department at a company. You're not allowed to say that 'people of ethnicity X will never be given a leadership position'. That's blatant racism.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by ceejayoz on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:35PM (#11050029)
I'd argue the point is "don't stomp in and make it all about you".
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by FireBeyond on Saturday February 06, 2016 @06:29PM (#11050572)
No, the point is "this isn't a place where the white folk will lead".

"the white folk"? That's pretty close to "you people"/"those people".

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by nwjtkjn on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:06PM (#11050164)
It's not just any department, but a department that specifically deals with diversity and race issues.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by pkinsky on Saturday February 06, 2016 @07:01PM (#11050715)
Do white-passing gay people not get to have a say in diversity issues?

I really don't like this trend of painting everyone with white-ish skin as a homogenous oppressor class. It's pretty clear to me that a diversity department that explicitly bans white people from leadership positions will not represent my interests if I am discriminated against.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by FireBeyond on Saturday February 06, 2016 @06:30PM (#11050577)
Doesn't get it a free pass under discrimination law.

How stupid can you be to post a "no white leadership", in writing?